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# 35
05-19-2013, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ursusmorologus View Post
if that's your position, then you're also stuck arguing that cruisers are balanced too
Why? Cruiser vs. Science Vessel vs. Escort is an entirely different discussion that involves far more than just the five innate abilities of the Careers.

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Originally Posted by ursusmorologus View Post
Three copies of the exact same Patrol Escort, with Tac, Sci, and Engi capts. Tac has APA and FOMM buffs that add to the BOFF abilities and break the target in half. Sci has SN debuff and SS buff that stacks to the BOFF abilities. Engi has nothing except incidental buffs that come from boosting weapon power.
Let's look at those abilities, eh?

APA...30s buff with a 2m CD that runs concurrently...so it is 1m30s after the 30s duration that it can be used again. Provides +Dmg, +CrtH, +CrtD, and +Turn. Awesome buff! Still need to hit the target for any of it to matter.

FOMM...cleared by TT. It's there. It's not there. Hrmm...

Not going to compare the Sci, because I've already put them at the top of the food chain with their Career abilities.

The Eng, eh? The Eng? What does the Eng have that might be helpful in a duel...a 1v1 match, eh? Hrmmm, let's see - the Eng is terribad for groups because they're so damn selfish. What could they possibly have for a 1v1...hrmmmm...what could they have?

Well, first of all they don't have any abilities that are wasted if they can't hit the target. Heck, if anything - they even reduce the negative impact of missing. Next, they don't have any abilities that can be cleansed...since they're not trying to debuff the target. So uh...wow, it's like the Eng could actually get more out of their buffs than the Tac.

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Originally Posted by ursusmorologus View Post
Hell my engi patrol escort can peg all four power meters full green. Do you think it helps me win anything?
How are you flying it?
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