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# 256
05-23-2013, 12:25 AM
Originally Posted by disposeableh3r0 View Post
Seeing as there is a maxium stack size it wouldnt matter unless you were in a 1 on 1. And even then that extra forward slot comes at the cost of a rear slo andt it balances out since cannons and turrets generate the same number of hits per second so it would be the same number of applications per second VS a standard 4/3 ship.

And most drain builds I've seen that are actualy effective rely on siphon drones and aceton assimilators. Something feds don't have. Beyond that ES3 is available to everyone who has the science slots for it. and the breen set is still available to all factions.
how fast to build the stack up? How long between stacks? if it had a cool-down, I might agree with you, but it's not set up that way. someone being able to max-stack consistently each pass is going to have a HELL of a lot more impact/benefit, than someone cornered into maxing stack once in a while.

Also, you're using "Cannons and turrets" as in: single cannons and turrets, which I generally agree do have the same number of hits per second. DUAL cannons have a higher rate of fire, which means MORE hits per second.

See: More shots fired (ceterus paribus)=more hits, so 4 DC hit fewer times than 5 DC, 4DC+3T hits fewer times (ceterus paribus) than 5DC+2T.

and most KDF players don't fly Raptors into PvP...for a reason-it's a lot harder to stay on a target in a Raptor, than it is in, say, a Fleet Advanced Escort. (it's the Pivot problem again). They fly ships with FEWER guns-aka Bird of Prey or BoP, or they fly ships with more hull and shields (aka Battlecruisers.)

an all-cannons build BC might be able to top your Kumari's Leech performance, assuming both are shooting at relatively slow targets with low situational awareness, but that BoP isn't.

and when it comes to P-Leech, that's usually where a KDF player uses it-because the Bird of Prey doesn't have the punch of a real escort, but is likely to be FACING real escorts-it's a slight edge on a BoP...but on a proper Escort it's ugly, fast...

and that doesn't touch on Science ships which can spec to pull drains KDF ships can't pull without Siphon Drones or Aceton Assimilators.
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Last edited by patrickngo; 05-23-2013 at 12:39 AM.