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# 48
07-19-2013, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
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Originally Posted by chi1701d
My point being, the general design of planes hasnt gone anywhere, has engine and wings.
Say that to anyone even remotely involved in aviation, and let me know how long it takes them to stop laughing.
Going into Aerospace Engineering 1st Year, starting September. And I found this actually quite hilarious!

Plane with no engines
. Theory debunked, ala Google.

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Originally Posted by edalgo
The Saber replaced the Miranda.
- Proof?

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Originally Posted by edalgo
Back during TOS the Miranda was a front line cruiser of the day similar to the galaxy/Nebula comparison.
It fulfilled many of the same roles.

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Originally Posted by edalgo
During TNG the Miranda was reduce from long range exploration and tactical missions to more shorter range patrol/escort and science missions within the federation borders. It's role has changed over time.
- Proof?

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Originally Posted by edalgo
The Saber was designed to do these missions but of course received better weapons and technology. I'm sure there are still some Mirandas flying around somewhere but not given the same important missions it once was.
- Incorrect, according to the DS9TM, the Saber has only four type X phaser emitters and two photon launchers, where the Miranda had six type-7 phaser emitters, two pulse phasers and two torpedo launchers fore and aft. The Miranda had better weaponry.

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Originally Posted by edalgo
As for the defiant it's tiny. Smaller than the Saber and smaller than Miranda. It's a powerful engine surrounded by weapons, armor and shields. Very little scientific research equipment on board. The Saber and the Nova were now more routinely assigned to these missions more and more as the Miranda class is being phased out. The Intrepid class took more long range scientific and tactical missions but by this time Galaxy's and Nebula's were filling this role. Intrepid class was to compliment the flagships without needing as many resources and crew to man. It had the same Mk X phasers the galaxy had.
Again, where are you getting all of this info from?

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Originally Posted by edalgo
Starfleet was working on the Akira, Nova, Saber, Steamrunner even before the borg threat. The Defiant, Sovereign and Promethious were direct results of the borg threat. Now the previous mentioned were constructed to modernize the fleet and were given more offensive and defensive capabilities than originally envisioned bc of the borg, dominion etc
And yet again, lack of proof. I could say the Defiant was a result of some engineer eating a cookie, looking at the remainders and getting an inspiration. But I have no proof, and I look silly. Same here, if you are going to state "fact", then attach proof.

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