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# 236
09-16-2013, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
My point is about the doff... not ships... regardless if your in a ship with Lt Cmd sci shockwave and Viral matrix are both great options as they DON'T scale with aux power at all... and you can run both Shockwave and Viral at global. I also forget to mention Mr. TBR... the skill that in fact benifits from being run at 5 aux.
your going to have to come to terms with it not mattering how powerful they are on paper, and it only mattering what ships can actually do with them. its the only valid way to judge them.


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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
There about to end doubling up of tac buffs... trust me you are going to see a lot more beam cannon torp escorts and yes aux to bat is going to be a good option to keep them all going.
what do you think the fix did? it wont prevent people useing them like normal, just from stacking 2 copies at once like you can with torp skills and BO currently. you can still have CRF with the same uptime as always, and use BO every 15 seconds. i somehow doubt most of the double tapers are going to add THY to thier alphas.


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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
The team skills don't need aux power at all... so how does that make sense.
a ship that wants ET or ST at its global with 1 copy is a healer. healers run primarily on aux heals. they would never run AtB builds, because that leaves you with no aux, and no AtS. this shouldn't be something i have to spell out.


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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
last I checked the Deflector skills all have 60s cool downs... so you use them at a high aux setting then you aux to bat... who cares if the aux power is gone for 10s... it will be back in 30s when you can use the skill again.
1 copy of AtB tends to be hard to work with and hard to rely on. thats why so many opt for 2 copies. that leaves you always bad at using aux dependent skills.


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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
Not the point my point is still valid... 3 tech doffs on any ship with more then 2 engi slots... is a better option then attack pattern doffs. Does the same job + everything else.
classic escorts, like the bug, andorian, defiant, steamrunner, and saber that use damage control and AP doffs are still, faster and better turning ships, not slow turning jack of all trade destroyers that need AtB to compete with them. even in the cases were you can use AtB on actual escorts, your APO, CRF, BO isnt doing more damage or spike then it is from a classic escort. theres no + magical beterness from using AtB.


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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
As I have pointed out a few times 2 copies of Aux to bat is stupid. I should stop saying brings everything to global perhaps... I'm sorry brings everything to 2-6s of global depending on the skill.

Seriously wth would anyone waste a second slot for 2 copies of aux to bat... for 2s ? On any skill at 45s+ 1 copy is the same as 2 copies anyway.
2 copies a waist, you cant be serious. you know, if i was this ignorant about a subject as your showing you are about this, i'd have the sense to not say anything about it.


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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
Doubling up tac abilities has been in the game for 4 years... aux to bat (in its current form with doffs) at most around a year or so I think.

If you want proof this is op... its simple... ask the pve kids if they are going to be pissed at us if this changes.... you mean they won't be able to knock out 30,000 dps in Infected any more in there aux to bat cruisers. lmao

Aux to bat has no defense its OP and everyone knows it.
are you scared of FAW pve AtB cruiser? is it the scariest thing in pvp? the most dangerous? no, they are a joke in pvp, and pve is a joke, so who cares if faw boats get big DPS there. everyone knows how much FAW blows up DPS numbers, its hitting multiple targets. that doesn't mean much when half the stf targets at any given time cant be damaged till you destroy everything else first. DHCs are still the fastest way to destroy everything in stfs. ive frankly delt with pure pve'ers that were more reasonable and logical then you are. at this point i can only hope your fainning deep ignorance to keep this thread bumped.
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