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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 18
03-18-2010, 10:08 AM
Originally Posted by Staran View Post
I don't understand you.
Why did it have to be there at launch?
What makes it so?
Because the previews before STO came out touted the Klingons around, blowing Feds up and all that nice stuff.

When the game went live, the Klingons WERE there, but compared to the Federation experience, was woefully inadequate.

When someone promotes aspects of a product to entice people to try / buy said product, and a customer buys it for that promoted feature and finds out it's terribly inadequate, what are they supposed to think?

Simply put: Cryptic promoted the Klingons BEFORE going Live. When the game shipped and went live, the Klingons were barely qualified to even be called a "playable" faction, especially compared to the Federation.

If Cryptic can't even be bothered to finish a faction they started working on before going Live, what makes you think the Romulans, a faction to be added later, will fare even better?
Originally Posted by STObee
I'd be happy to see Klingons get HALF what the Feds get. But look at the 45-day update, not close to half. Feds getting off-duty clothes, Klingons had what, 1/5 of Fed clothing options?

What I'd like to see is Klingons getting the lions share of development and content until they are on a par with Federation. That's probably expecting too much, and I'd settle for "observably more" attention.

Maybe there are reasons why the Feds got three new playable species and Klingons got didly. Maybe Cryptic desperatly needs the income from C-store. Maybe those three species were already done at launch and scheduled for release at 45-days as padding to make Cryptic look like they've been working hard on new material.

But mostly I don't know what is behind Cryptic's tone deafness on Klingon concerns.
  • Cryptic doesn't see much near future revenue from Klingons?
  • They realize Klingons have been borked and are taking a looong view of "fixing" them?
  • They are responding to volume of messages, and the Feds will always have the most volume?
  • They don't understand Star Trek fans or STO players all that well?
  • They simply don't know how to do good PvP?

On PvP - make a sector, allow anyone in it (all tiers in the same area), let them PvP anyone from the other faction. Set up a mecahnism so that no more than twice as many players from one faction than the other enter. Put up a message: WARNING - THIS IS A PvP AREA. YOU MAY BE KILLED. IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO ENTER OR STAY OUT. NO WHINING!!!

Then make some dueling arenas
  • 1:1challenge area with consentual wagering between players
  • 40 player last man standing cage match
  • Team event arena (two 20-player teams)

Only rewards besides wagers are from the existing "kill X number of enemy captains" or "die Y number of times" missions. Those and bragging rights.

Fleets should be able to use these to stage competitions within Fleets and with other Fleets.

The Klingons will continue to get little to no attention from the devs for the very same reason why **even the Gold Sellers don't pay any attention to the KDF**... Because there's nobody left in the KDF faction. You can find more Gold Seller spam in the most remote Federation sector blocks than in the Klingons' home sector block of Qo'Nos. It's not worth the effort even in the Gold Sellers' greedy eyes and mindset. If money-grubbing people won't pay attention to the KDF, why would Cryptic bother to put considerable resources in the KDF?