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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 25
03-12-2011, 10:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sithterror View Post
i know my BoP [Hegtha] using full Aegis at:
125/100
73/50
50/25
50/25

(all performance skills maxed and all efficiencies except weapons are maxed)
Inertia: 60
Turn: 42.4
Flight: 26.47
Hull: 31201
Shield: 10395
(using the Field generator)

In my MVAM with same skills and Aegis:
Inertia: 70
Turn rate: 29.2
Flight speed: 26.47
Hull: 39k
Shields: 11694


Alpha Section:
Inertia: 100
Turn: 34.8
Flight: 31.25
Hull: 37144
Shield: 10631


Beta Section:
Inertia: 100
Turn: 44.2
Flight: 34.07
Hull: 35455
Shield: 10631


Gamma Section:
Inertia: 100
Turn: 39.2
Flight: 31.54
Hull: 35455
Shield: 11137


So comparative stats.
1) BoP gets a cloak for reduced Hull and Shields vs other escorts......and the B'rel gets even less for Hull and Shields due to its Cloak.
2) the MVAM doesn't get a cloak, but instead gets to separate into 3 ships and get the Speed, inertia and turn the a BoP does or even better in some cases.

So trying to keep fair, in love and war, does it not make sense that ship splits into 3 pieces thus splits its Hull and Shield into 3 parts? Well that would actually place it lower than the B'rel and here i am trying to make it fair....so how about when all is said and split each of the 3 pilotable parts has a Hull and Shield value comparable to the B'rel??
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beagles View Post
.................................................. ........BOP ..............................NEW AE................WINNER

Hull .................................................. .31,200...........................35,500.......... ........AE

Shields........................................... ..10,200............................10,600........ ..........AE

Turn Rate @ 50 base eng.................45 ...............................46................. .........AE

Weapons ............................................6 ...............................7.................. ..........AE

Bridge Officers..................................11...... .........................12....................... .....AE

Tact Consoles ...................................3 ..............................4................... ..........AE

Eng Consoles.....................................3 ..............................2................... ..........BOP (but not really)

Weapon Power..................................129........ .....................134.......................... AE

Special Ability wise, Bop has cloak, AE has MV. AE has to give up sci slot for it giving an edge to the bird, but lets be honest, sci slot is **** on a bird and AE anyways. Ill gladly trade two of my sci slots for a 4th tactical on my bird.


Overall this ship has more hull, more shields, better turn, more weapons (more damage, period), more bridge officers, more tact consoles (more damage, period) and more weapon power. The Bird has 1 more eng console, but itll just be used as resistance to help make up the difference in the hull.

People will say "but Birds have universal consoles"...yes but this does not matter when the feds have 10 ships with every viable configuration. All of our birds are Tact Commander/Sci LTC to maximize spike. Everyone has to have an Engy LT. The difference is in that last lt universal. If Bird goes tact theyre completely outmatched as they just copied the AE. 2nd Engy LT...meh. Sci is the only option, which I would us for polarize to get out of tractors (can get omeg to do this on escort) and sci team (which i wouldnt use on escort anyways when you can have two tact teams to do even more damage).

But we all know this ship was made to bring in the $$ so honestly there isnt much point in arguing it. This is easily the best Escort in the game. It completely makes fleet and advanced escort obsolete. The amount of damage this thing can do without any penalty to defense is just ridiculous tho
These stats do not look identical - more details on the stats influencing the final numbers?

. Also, are all BoPs now running Tact Commander, Lt.Cmdr Science, Lt.Engineer and Lt.Tactical? Where do we count Battle Cloak?