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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 30
07-09-2011, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by meeowww View Post
If "newbs" want to get better, then they can use the private queue system to practice, or watch our videos. Or read our hundreds of forum posts about ground combat. Collectively the people in FS have the most forum posts about ground advice and the most ground pvp videos on YouTube. Not to mention, we spoke up in the Tribble forums about class balance and powers. We did our part to contribute to the community. Yet we get flamed like this.

And the reason we play in a team is because we do often run into tough and challenging matches against SETF, CHC, and other good ground pugs, and other members of our fleet who are supporting pug groups (I often play with pugs and heal them against FS team--that's how I got better... by playing against FS premades). That is the kind of PvP that we like. Maybe I call it "baptism by fire" but the pugs should shape up and start teaming together, coordinating, organizing, etc., if they don't want to lose by big margins. Cryptic has already made a fleet search system if you are not in a fleet already. Also there are plenty of casual Pug vs Pug matches, which I have been in, that are a lot of fun. In no way does FS hog the queue. There are plenty of Pug vs Pug matches.

As for "lightening up" -- we do go in easy mode quite frequently. The reason we are called "fister" is because we often revert to fighting with just fists, no energy weapons, to lighten up against the opposing team and let them get some shots in. So I do think we deserve some credit for lightening up already and playing in easy mode. Sometimes people in the FS fleet will just sit out the whole game (especially when other people beam out from us, oddly enough). How is that supposed to be fair to us--when someone beams out of a match, so then one of us has to sit out for the whole match. Talk about a waste of time.

What bothers me is that no one really asks why a winning team is doing well, or ask how they can get better. Instead they get flamed and Cryptic gets blamed. This is such a simple MMO, such simple controls and powers and in my opinion, and very easy to learn. We aren't any smarter than the rest of the community. I think we just tried harder to learn and never gave up by beaming out. If you ask me, that's the problem with the STO PVP community.
I'm not flaming you, I'm stating the facts. How would you feel if you constantly lost when you tried your hardest to improve and it happens over and over again?

That's the thing, you guys are too good. And people are trying to acclimate into Ground PVP and they run into you guys. Just tonight the people didn't know who you Sistas were, but they recognized you as a premade and one guy who I found to be really good beamed out. So when people are trying to learn, they are getting knocked down and discouraged.

And this is futher offsetted by the new very aggressive style of STO PvP where basically even non Premades can easily steamroll an opponent. Which is why I suggested some negative aspects to blinding charging in and making GPvP more cautious battling.

So in the end, people think they aren't good enough and just leave, never to Ground PvP ever again. And The Ground Queues go back to being a desert, but this time forever silent.

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Originally Posted by meeowww View Post
What bothers me is that no one really asks why a winning team is doing well, or ask how they can get better. Instead they get flamed and Cryptic gets blamed. This is such a simple MMO, such simple controls and powers and in my opinion, and very easy to learn. We aren't any smarter than the rest of the community. I think we just tried harder to learn and never gave up by beaming out. If you ask me, that's the problem with the STO PVP community.
I know I asked a few of your members, but figured you guys are getting the feel for S4. But I was told sniper rifles are out and shotguns are in. Which pretty much is a given.

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Originally Posted by meeowww View Post
Our idea of fun is playing with friends and learning how to play as a team, this is an MMO, people should be more social and team up together. Actually they do stand a chance if you just read all our forum posts or watch our videos.
I'm not saying its not, just that it plain sucks to be constantly on the receiving end, thats all. Its no different than in Space PvP going against those Premades as well.

If it was possible I would segregate the game into regulars and hardcores. But that isn't going to happen.