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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
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# 22
08-26-2011, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyHappyJoyJoy View Post
Every time we see Worf deal with the klingons we see his crushing disappointment over them not meeting his ideals (since he was raised with a human perspective). Even Worf, however, knows that klingon honour isn't analogous to human honour. When asked about how klingons, who are such believers in honour, could embrace tactics like ambushes from cloak, he responded, "Nothing is more honourable than victory."
Not at all, in fact we see Worf have plenty of good experiences with Klingon society. The problems that we see 98% of the time are directly related to the corruption of the Empire.

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Originally Posted by HappyHappyJoyJoy View Post
To the victor go the spoils. And of course, we've readily seen the Empire conquer planets or cow miners for resources. So we've seen them openly pirating and marauding for profit, even if that profit is more for the Empire and the esteem it gives than for personal gain.

I think you're projecting human notions on klingon honour and trying to apply ideals to it that no klingon outside of Worf (who was raised by humans) never would.
Klingons do not concern themselves with 'filthy ledgers' or otherwise attacking for personal wealth, to do so is dishonorable or do I need to remind you that an entire Klingon House was discommendated for trying to use financial means to bring down another House (DS9: "House of Quark")?

Many dishonorable things are done "In the name of the Empire" but it is not a conflict of Human and Klingon ideas of honor so much as it is the corruption or cowardice of those in charge.