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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 27
08-26-2011, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerrus View Post
The other thing to consider is that a lot of Klingon fans project onto the klinks their beliefs, and it's been going around for such a long time that the fanon is that Klingons are these brave samurai-esque warriors that adhere to a universal code of honour and blah blah blah- they totally don't.


While they might have been modeled off of the Samurai, the Klingons are nothing of the sort. Honour is really a misnomer in this situation- I think a better term would be... oh... Glory.




Seriously, go and substitute every use of the word 'honor' with 'glory' in Klingon dialogue.



the picture it paints is not a very nice one, which is part of the reason why the word 'honor' is used. Honour sounds so much more... noble.
It has nothing to do with a samurai-style, in fact they is very little to compare of the Klingons to the Samurai.

I'm not denying that there isn't a problem in the Empire, in fact we see it as early as Enterprise when Archer's advocate Kolos tells him that Honor is failing in the Empire and that things used to be very different, and that now the Empire was filled with young warriors concerned only with glory rather than honor.

It's also part of the reason that Kahless cloned, and the plan might have succeeded in restoring the Empire after the further and serious damage done by Duras and his family had it not been for Gowron exposing the action.

The Empire was founded on honor and that honor has faded dramatically into very little (thanks to the actions of families like the House of Duras) but there are still Klingons to whom that matters; don't make the mistake of thinking that they're all a bunch of glory-driven killers driven by their bloodlust....

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Originally Posted by Kerrus View Post
EDIT: If 98% of klingons are 'corrupted' um... well there's a thing called majority rules. If 98% of klingons believe honor works that way, then by all accounts, that's how it works.
Where are you getting that 98% of Klingons are corrupt individuals?