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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 80
08-30-2011, 11:25 AM
Originally Posted by BigRedJedi
Let's look at this from another angle...

Was New FAW™ (FAW3.0) broken/too powerful/whatever-you-want-to-refer-to-it-as? Absolutely, from the supposed (I say 'supposed' because it still is unusually accurate, but that seems to be more related to Beams in general, than, necessarily, FAW itself) Accuracy bug, to the excessive volume of firepower, it was blatantly obvious that a fix/tweak/nerf (or, if you prefer, NERF :p ) was necessary.

The list of proposed fixes was as long as it was varied... The chosen "fix"... Reducing the up-time...

So, instead of actually fixing the 'mechanics' that made FAW broken, the "fix" was to just make it so it happens slightly less often... While, at the same time, actually reducing FAW's effectiveness for what it is supposed to be utilized to do, which is to clear spam and provide slight-to-moderate pressure damage to multiple targets.

Why is it:

Because the problems that made it OP in the first place were not addressed, simply by a slight reduction in up-time. Taking a broken mechanic and making it so that you can use it a little less frequently is barely a band-aid, let alone a "fix" that solves the underlying problem.


Oh, and if there are "a lot of [so-called] better players who stay in the shadows," then they should get off their high horses and rather than 'think' that they understand the game better than anyone, they should join in regular PvP, join in the Community discussions, and try to help the Devs to steer the game in that "better" direction by offering constructive feedback and criticism. Everyone can be an armchair general or Monday morning quarterback, but unless they are the ones actually playing the game, their opinions will only ever be just that.
Red, just your name would lead me to believe that you already know almost, at least, 90% of what I do with NERFs. (And yes, I use the capitols just to emphasize the point) Remember the NERF WARS, back in SWG before NGE? Remember the start of it while CURB was being talked about? Remember devs coming to the forums asking if it was even worth fixing? Remember CURB turning into CU and the resultant complete deleation of the mind bar? Remember, how in CU, that the NERF WARS got soooooo bad that SOE Austin even stopped talking to us? Why? (see next question) Then, remember NGE and the community people of SOE telling us "it was to fix all of our "listed" problems" by taking away all diversity, making EVERY power in the game open to players completly vanilla, and telling us it was for our own good???????? After all, we all griped about it enough. And after Nov 15th, 2005, LA went directly to Bioware, in Dec. 2005, didn't pass go and didn't collect 200.00, and started talks for TOR. You want CBS to do the same?

Then and now, remember what this all did for that game. Do you REALLY want to see all of that, again, over here?

I said 90% as I came back to the NGE, after quite a long break due to not finding anything to replace SWG as a whole. Most did not, so I've got the years since Nov 15th, 2005 also which culminated in yet another form of CU with C6CD and then yet again with GU-Whatever. Take a good look at my signature, you actualy want that for STO all in the name of PVP balance?

You already know the outcome of these things. I'm sure you've been there just as much as I have. You have came up with some great aids, guides, questions to Cryptic Development, and help for the PVP community. But, please, do not try to start that process all over again, here. STO, Cryptic, and players just do not need it.

Last time I checked the culmination thread, here, there were 41 different items on it, 41!!!!!! Even some1 who never played SWG has to know that would constitute "NERF Wars" all over again.

Sorry, but there are many very good players, who PVP even, who do not come to the forums, who do not complain, and who do not get involved in the "I pwned jooooo" situation that PVP can bring up and make so evident. You do not have to be in a complete PVP guild or fleet to be a "good" player. I've met several. Their opinions matter just as much as yours or mine. They have their 15 bucks a month invested also, and JUST that fact makes them have the same importance.