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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
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# 26
02-07-2012, 02:05 AM
Originally Posted by Pondara
Like I said, this makes no sense since they have been at war for decades, that may have been the design philosophy at one time yes but if that hasn't changed by the time the game takes place, where peacetime hasn't been the norm for decades, than the UFP deserved to get conquered.

Take WWII for instance, the allied nations weren't necessarily aggressive nations with the most advanced military, but from the start in 1939 to the end in 1945 those nations quickly learned that they need to make advancements in their armaments to compete and win and during those 6 years, military technology and just tech in general advanced in leaps and bounds.

Now you can't tell me that in the decades of war that the Federation has been in, they haven't realized that "hey, if we built warships and trained soldiers for war, than we could end this war(s) sooner and put an end to the killing."
The WWII analogy only works to an extent. The Wehrmacht surprised the Allies with new technologies and tactics, but the Allies still had a fairly strong military tradition to fall back on to help them catch up. There was a relatively short gap between the two world wars. In Star Trek, the Federation enjoyed nearly a century of peace, prior to the Dominion, that allowed their complacency and disfavourable attitude towards war and aggression to become a near-universal ethos amongst their worlds. Remember how much Picard and Riker scoffed at the uncivilised and barbaric exercise that was a Federation wargame?

The Federation and Starfleet took a completely defensive and reactionary stance when it came to warfare and aggression. Yes, their ships had weapons, but they also had families living on board their flagship. Sure, a Starfleet officer could pick up a phaser and defend himself if necessary, but the organisation as a whole had no concept of true ground combat tactics as graphically displayed in "the Siege of AR-588" (lucky for them, neither did the Jem'Hadar). So yes, between the end of Nemesis and the current timeline of STO, the Federation has been in a near constant state of both cold and hot war, but I don't feel that it has been quite long enough for the entirety of its peoples to have shaken off their century-old "high and mighty" (for lack of a better term) attitude towards war. Hence we do have some purely aggressive ship designs (most Escorts, some Cruisers), but I doubt a carrier is something they've given much thought to. And if they have, it's still only a blueprint.