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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 5
03-27-2012, 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by V-Mink
I'd certainly be curious and interested in seeing a dialogue about this topic. I think there are some legitimate claims here, especially with regards to ships such as the Excalibur and the Sabre. Obviously a T5 Connie is out of the queestion, but a T5 Excalibur shouldn't be.

Part of the problem, though, is that 'T5' implies not only 'more modern' ships but mostly 'just plain better.' Which is rather curious when seeing the Connie be the (rough) equivalent of the Nova, though that's more of an issue of the costumes.

I'm wondering if there's not another way to go about this, in which people can play their favorite ship to the end of PvE -- missions scaled to some combination of tier of ship and level of character? so an Excalibur isn't facing the same enemies a Sovereign is and beating them (but then it gets difficult with mixed-tier teams) -- and yet also keep PvP balanced, though that's much harder and might have to be forgotten about.

One thing is for certain, the tier system is broken and needs an overhaul. Yes, I know: Resources, resources, resources. Which is why I don't think we'll be seeing a renovation to the tier system ever, and why proposals like this should be discussed.
After some additional considerations given, I got to thinking that it might be feasible to see the Nova and the Sabre, given full on retrofits, based on the conclusion I reached with the Sabre.

If the Sabre were given a retrofit that matched it's stats to the Tier 4 Defiant, I could easily see the Nova being given a similar treatment, to match the Tier 4 Intrepid.

What this accomplishes is to give players an "upper level" version of the Sabre and Nova, but, keeping them respectfully behind the Defiant and Intrepid, which have Tier 5 counterparts.

So, that would leave the question of the Excalibur, and one that I think could easily be answered.

Excalibur becomes the Fed player's version of the T5 B'rel.

The reason I come to this conclusion is because the B'Rel was a sort of "adversary" to the Connie Refit. However, in the T5 Version, the B'Rel is upgraded, right? So, give the B'Rel it's new natural adversary, in the upgraded Excalibur.

The main thing with the B'Rel is it's battle cloak counters it's weak hull. So, a T5 Excalibur might have a slightly buffed hull (25,000 range or so) which still leaves it well below the other T5 cruisers, but is an upgrade from the T2 Excalibur.

And yes, I'd give it Universal BOFF slots, and essentially call the Excalibur, Starfleet's "fill em up and send them out" ships. Configure it how you want, play it how you want, and it would still be reasonable within the parameters of the game.

Essentially STO's version of the US Navy Destroyer or Frigate.