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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 120
# 43
06-04-2012, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dassem_Ultor
Well, if they removed a captain power like APA, or a boff power like CRF, that would also make you not win. That an ability can make your build successful doesn't make it OP or unbalanced. Before, consoles had only passive effects, now they are slottable abilities as well.
and if i take your ship off and let u floating in space just with bunch of stone to throw to the enemys, u won't kill nothing neither lol. Capitan skills and boff skills are the base of this game, don't compare with the p2w consoles skills, what u said have no sense at all.


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Originally Posted by Dassem_Ultor
Somewhere the line has to be drawn, and the closest thing to an impartial judge is Cryptic. The PSW3 killers will never agree that PSW3 is borked, any more than the FAW3 of past agreed that FAW was broken. On the other hand, there are people crying that CRF3 or DHCs are unbalanced. Only when the devs say something is "not as intended" it will become unethical to use it. The decision of what is wrong to use can not be left to the users.

Just because something is powerfull, that no means that is unbalanced. Many p2w consoles are game breaking, is not a problem of simple balance.

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Originally Posted by Dassem_Ultor
The devs admitted this? I never heard such a thing... Ofc they don't, but for them to admit it... Anyway, so YOU will be the judge of what is wrong to use or unbalanced? Or a group of the most vocal PvPers? I'm not comfortable with that....
Read the first "PVP weekly update".


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Originally Posted by Dassem_Ultor
As I wrote in the OP, I do have some of these consoles, and I do feel bad about using them, not because I find them OP, but because I get P2W thrown at me. Who plays fair anyway? 95% of the players I face have some sort of C-point device that makes them stronger. Oddy, MVAM, consoles etc. The consoles are not the most unbalanced thing you get from the shop. You will yell "P2W n00b!" at anyone using something that wasn't in the game at launch? The game is changing, play is changing, and insulting players who adapt to the changes is nothing but griefing IMO. Cry to the devs about it, not those who use what they are given. When a dev says "this needs change", it's a different issue altogether. Then there is something wrong with the game, and only then it's not fair play to use it. If some random player says it, or some limited group, it holds no weight. Abilities that are annoying are unfortunately part of the game, but this is not the fault of whoever uses them.

Btw: AMS I don't have, and the assimilator I use only on my STF drain-build. The only console i use regularly in PvP is the leech. And sometimes the subspace jump.
As i said, this post is just you trying to justify the use of p2w consoles using the argument "because devs don't say is broken, then is working fine, don't u see the fail in your logic? Keep using them if u want, but don't try to convince others that they are ok, because they don't