The Founders (not them, the other guys)
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10-05-2012, 10:13 AM
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One other bit of background - the animated episode "The Slaver Weapon" was an adaptation of one of Larry Niven's "Known Space" stories, and brought some elements of that setting into the Trek universe. In Niven's setting, several billion years ago the galaxy was dominated by the 'Slavers', a powerful race of telepaths who mentally enslaved all other lifeforms. Eventually, one of their slave races managed to rebel against them, and the Slavers, rather than face defeat, used their powers to make every sapient lifeform in the galaxy commit suicide.
In the Trek universe, this could explain why the ancient humanoids were apparently the only intelligent life in their era - they could have been the first race to evolve after the Slavers wiped out all life, or had been somehow protected from the telepathic attack.
The Slavers themselves were humanoid, in that they were bipeds with two arms, but other than that didn't look much like humans; certainly a lot less than the hundreds of species all but identical to humans in the modern Trek universe.
a bit more background. in the Known Space setting, the Thrintum (the slavers) cultivated strains of a yeast like microbial life on 'food worlds', which they used to make a cheap food, and later to feed their food animals once the 'yeast' mutated to the point of being useless as food itself.
the Thrint wound up fighting one of their slave species, the
. at the end of the war, the Thrint built a weapon to amplify their psychic power, and they ordered all sentient life in the galaxy to die. the only ones that survived were those in time-stassis fields, were immune to psionics, or were too stupid to understand the order.
after wards all the food planets went on to evolve higher life, explaining why nearly all life forms in the known space setting are biochemically compatible.
of course, this background doesn't really apply to trek, since it wasn't all mentioned in the TAS episode.
i don't know if the premise of the known space story could be kept, though it could work as long as the Thrint died off a few million years before the ancestral humanoids became sentient.. that would also give them plenty of planets with primordial life for the ancestral humanoids to seed with the triggers for humanoid life.
on another 'ancient cultures' note, you have the star trek novels, which are always more willing to explore exotic ideas due to the fact you don't have to deal with a budget. in
The Buried age
, you find out that 250+ million years ago there was a massive multiracial alliance that was nearly galaxy wide and incredibly advanced, built by
a race of 'living universal translators' and diplomats
. that same race also caused the downfall of said civilization, by building a device to bridge the gap between our plane of existance and the ones inhabited by beings such as the Q.. while intended to just open communication, it caused all sentient life not protected by time-stopping fields to ascend to these higher planes against their will. which basically depopulated the entire galaxy. caused a lot of stellar disasters too, since the society did a lot of stellar engineering (they were close to being a kardashev Type 3 society).
a great book, lots of cool stuff. the author also posted his
online, with notes on what each of the references were and why he did certain parts the way he did.
"Tiny little dots far, far away. Our eyes drawn to the twinkle of a hundred billion galaxies. Giving life to illusion, illusion to life. Something upon which to hang our hopes."
- Tobias LeConte -
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