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# 7
10-08-2012, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by marcusdkane View Post
Exactly


Perhaps she was fated to step in front of a bus the week after, so her temporal relocation would have had no impact on the timeline...
She still would have had an impact - she would have sparked an investigation, probably cost a bus driver his job or license, raised the fleet insurance on the buses, etc. But she was already pulled out of the timeline - she had no impact because she was never there, and any impact she had already happened.


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Sisko did not kill Gabriel Bell...
Bell died due to Sisko's presence in the timeline. If you want to debate the distinction with Temporal Investigations be my guest.


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'Spectacular battle'? The Borg sphere was firing consistently at the surface. The Enterprise-E fired four quantum torpedoes and the sphere exploded... That's hardly 'spectacular'
You have to consider that the ships both should have been visible to an observer (and easily detected on military or space program sensors), the explosion would have been extremely visible, and as for spectacular, the yield of the weapons involved would have far exceeded the yield of any nuclear weapons Earth was suggested to possess - a photon torpedo already approximates the yield of the largest nuclear weapon ever used. Quantum torpedo yield is never established in canon, but exceeds that.


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Never happened...
Fragments from the sphere made it through the atmosphere following it's destruction, but it was hardly a re-entry and crash landing...
The fragments that survived the landing were large enough to establish the shape and size of the ship. They extended many meters into the air and the debris field spread for kilometers. The large chunk we saw would on its own be one of the largest objects to enter Earth's atmosphere in recorded history, and the largest since photography became so ubiquitous. For some comparison, an object less than a meter across, orders of magnitude lower in mass, recently entered the atmosphere near England and at least fifty separate videos captured its passing.

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Worf clearly reported that the moon's gravitational field had obscured the Enterprise's warp signature from the T'Plana-Hath's sensors, no mystery there... If the T'Plana-Hath's sensors had detected anything, there would have been nothing remaining to investigate. Vulcans of the time would have no belief in time travel, so their logic would have dictated that the sensors had either picked up a subspace echo from the Phoenix's test flight, or that the sensor array had briefly malfunctioned and created an anomalous reading...
Vulcans were also able to detect the passing of a ship, not just its presence. Not knowing it departed into the future doesn't change the fact that they should have detected its prior presence in low orbit. Not to mention debris - from the sphere's explosion, battle damage to both craft, from the Enterprise's destroyed deflector, a couple Borg/Borg body parts that drifted off into independent orbits, not to mention any other objects that got drawn through along with the Sphere and Enterprise - they were coming out of a battlezone with multiple destroyed ships and it's clearly possible for objects outside of the sphere to cross with it. Not believing in time travel would only mean they'd never figure out what happened, they'd still have the mystery.

Last edited by hevach; 10-08-2012 at 06:52 AM.