Thread: Fairness in PvP
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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# 27
11-12-2012, 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by paxottoman View Post
I guess you don't play Golf.

There is something called a handicap in the game of Golf. Where you give an advantage to your opponent in the interest of having a more challenging match.

We all paid good money. They paid good money. I can tell you this about S.O.B, they are not using SN Doffs on us, know why? They are deterred, they are using P2W because they need that crutch. If you are in a fleet that uses P2W and you dislike P2W, and would like to win without the use of P2W, then TRH is your fleet.

As for S.O.B. if this entails them using P2W and "god knows what" then so be it. The attitude employed at TRH is allowing a crutch for those that need that to level the playing field. TRH has played S.O.B. on several occasions, sure it's been rough and stressful but it's a challenge nonetheless. Does TRH have good relations with S.O.B. and the answer is YES! Why? They're people to play the game with, as opposed to people who simply "give up" or go to other games.

A win against P2W, coordination undid their P2W:

The realism behind it is that Hilbert is disgusted with P2W and finding it difficult to find a group of people who employ the same attitude as him. We back you 100% Hilbert. Coordination beats P2W, that's the bottom line. Coordination does lose to OP, example: SN Doffs. Which is why we use our deterrence policy on that.

The handicap shouldnt really be there in this game. This game should be about utlizing the skills and abilities every player is given for free without using money, and then sow something together to make a good team, e.g like in GW2. P2W disturbes that balance sorry to say.

As for the extra crutch that might be so, but I dont see the need to go overboard with it, and use it all for all its worth. Now SOB was not meant as a target to be hanged out, if they interpreted it that way I apologize, but it served as a bloody good example.

Fair enough. You guys can show off how to win against fleets who use extensivly P2W, but the problem is that core pvp fleets need to do the same before any change can occure. If only a few is going to do it, the rest will just freeload by using P2W, have the same coordination and still come on top most of the times, because of said advantage.
Cryptic in all its infinite wisdom isnt exactly helping out on this issue, especially when they introduce new ships, new consoles etc (Vesta being the lastest).
Worst part is that most folks will buy it too! *sigh*

The realism still persist that pvp and fairness dont go hand in hand, although i wish sometimes it did. If Hilbert feels disgusted, then im appaled and I directly loath P2W. Ive expressed that early and on most occassions on the fourms and ingame, to the point people are tired of my "complaining". Most of the old core of TSI left STO for the sole reason that P2W has ruined the game. Era refuses to return, Aythani refuses, Faithborn refuses, Linty refuses and im on the verge on quitting alltoghether. For all I know I want this game reseted back to 1.2 where skill meant something, and where people didnt achieve easy wins by paying themselves to victory.

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