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# 14
11-19-2012, 12:38 AM
Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
You sure?

Its soft cannon, also it was requested and believe it or not I rather have a soft cannon late 2370's ship that a pre-TNG era ship.

And of course if we go down that route we start to go looking at the KDF shipyards were the large majority of those ships are also very soft since they were made for this game.

I only point out you cannot go up in arms about someone "stealing" that was never yours, the fact the KDF get carriers first does not mean they should forever locked out to the KDF faction ... or are you prepared to have BoPs as your side ONLY science ships?

This is the same bankrupt argument I seen used pre-Atrox to argue against Federation having any kind of carriers, you can say we never shown anyone having a full-on carrier yet the first one was the Klingon Vo'quv (even if its called a Dreadnaught) as the Federation only have the Armitage as a carrier and its not a full-on, the Vesta hangar makes its unsuitable to operate as a carrier.

Its bankrupt because those fighters existed and so must have been based somewhere, it not difficult to make a connection to some support ship-class we never seen being their base, this is speculation true but the connection can be made.

Canon, non-canon, fine, whatever, you win that.

I can understand however that not having some things be KDF exclusive. BUT that point still can be used about so many Fed items as well. Would you be willing to let the KDF have an escort/raptor have 5 tactical consoles, for example, something they don't have? Or heck, just a fleet-level ship they can either buy from the C-store, or a Fleet ship that applies for the module discount in the first place.

You ask if I am fine to deal with BoPs being our only sci ships without carriers? Well, they nearly ARE that already. Taking away the Vo'quv and Kar'fi, we're left with the Hegh'ta and B'rel as pseudo-sci ships (at end-game), and the Varanus as the only true and complete sci ship on the KDF side. So that is a bit moot, because it doesn't really matter, the KDF is already at that point anyways.

So, 'bankrupt arguments'? Interesting choice of words, you could say the same thing about a lot of the topics in this forum, PvP area, Fed vs. KDF in general, and so on. There are plenty of those around here, not just a mere single topic about Fed carriers, that at least is something not exclusive to any side.

Besides, none of my post means spit in this thread, since we're all getting very quickly off topic into little more than a 'fed v kdf' battle. So feel free to reply to me again, not that I will be changing your mind anytime soon I bet. hangar pets? I don't mind seeing more variety, but we just haven't seen many ideas on what to add.

I would like to add something of importance that everyone seems to have forgotten about:

New romulan rep has new hangar pets of course, but...

Tier 5 science on SBs has very rare hangar pets as well. So far as I know, nobody on either side has reached that, so if they are the same pets, or new 'Elite Fleet' level pets, I do not know, but it's something to keep in mind for the future, everyone.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.