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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 197
# 77
12-02-2012, 03:37 PM
Originally Posted by doomicile View Post
I take it you fly a Jem Bug.

i own a jem but fly a galor to help my team deal with carrier spam and people like you who run tric spread spam. It's a great pressure build as well with me being able to put bleedthrough pressure on secondary targets with 8cannon dem, tractor/ewp all on aux2batt globals. Ask around and see what a team would rather have running with it. My galor or your aux powered FAW/scort one tric pony. I love my bug, but run a cruiser due to the ridiculousness cryptic has introduced to the game. My main however is a sci healer. Feel free to ask around how effective I was in either. My at handle is fallout23

Cryptic's answer seem to make them available to everyone by putting them in reinforcement packs every so often.

They have the same hull strength as a cruiser. 4 Engie slots to stack Neutronium. 5 Tac slots to hit like a truck. The Jem set to strip shields, making cruisers glass...well just glass, let alone escorts. They have the highest turn rate of any fighter without any RCS consoles. But again, I deal with them.

my point is, yeah they're good. Put top pilots that fly them like Thales, horizon, or mt in another escort, and you will cry about there damage output as well. Truth is, they live to maximize there damage potential by tweaking there builds and honing there skills more than anyone else in the game. The bug IS the best escort in the game. No argument there. What cracks me up is you bagging on it after having clearly faced opponents in it that blew you out of the water, but then you bring an auxpowered FAWscort up as a comparison...

I merely tried to point out the difference between a bug and an exploit pertaining to the Voldemort and in general.

and I merely pointed out one example that fits YOUR definition of an exploit which obviously was a sore subject with you

You seem to come here with a vendetta in response to my post because I must have popped you in a recent match and you manage to put 2 and 2 together or you merely saw my sig, which I've had since S2.

im pretty doubtful you've ever killed me with that setup sir

I admit the crit is off in that they shouldn't all crit at once and I'm sure the devs will address it but I don't rely on crits and crits aren't guaranteed. I took mines, simply because they made Tric work with DPB. Just like they made Tric Trops work with HYT and TS. I don't care if you don't like my build and think it's a joke.

i assure you it's not only me that thinks that

I'm an Engineer and at one point, tanking was viable in PvP, then Tacs whined Damage was too low. Resists were too high. So one got buffed and one got nerfed, across the board. Again, if they removed Mine crits altogether, I'll still be blowing people out of the sky. OP? No. Just a different way of playing. It's not just dropping mines whenever DPB is up and going HAHA, timing is involved just like coming up on your target within 5km with 10 different buffs on your Cannons.

while timing may get better results, it's still not necessary for beta patterned tric's to be too effective. Like I said, I ALSO blew people out of the sky leaving them on autofire and COMPLETELY unspec'd in projectiles. Thales and JamO ran me with the night I used them. Feel free to ask them how they worked. (JamO was the one that gave me **** and told me to take them back off because so many people were complaining in zone chat).

I see it more as a demolitionist. Engineers are the only class that get pigeonholed into healing because they don't bring anything else to the table. Yet a Tac and Sci Cap can heal equally as well but noone rolls them for healing.

THIS is a good point. Here's yet another idea of how engineers COULD be a more distinctive class in battle. Since they kind of are the demo type, why not give them a slight buff to mines? Even though that really doesn't have to do with this debate, it's an interesting twist to the class I had never considered

There are some who don't agree and there are some, who don't even use mines who think they're fine because they don't let themselves get hit by them. I hope the Mod will close this thread already.

the funny thing is the split of people that agree with you here, but don't agree with you in OPVP. Most the time, the two are pretty close in opinion. OPVP, at least in my timezone, is dead against patterned tric's.
Just saying....