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# 8
01-16-2013, 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by smokeybacon90 View Post
That article has a few problems. It is mixing formal and informal terminology.

The US Navy does not distinguish between "Carriers" and "Supercarriers". The hull designations are CV (no longer used after JFK was decom'd) for conventionally powered carriers, including the Fleet Carriers of WW2, and CVN (formerly CVA(N) for nuclear powered carriers. In the past, other terms such as CVL (Light Carrier), CVE (Escort Carrier), CVB (Lage Carrier) where used for the variety of types that emerged.

I think the best option for carrier designation is with the following categories:

Fleet Carrier (CV) - A fully fledged large carrier, devoted entirely to that role.
Assault Carrier (CVA) - A smaller and more adaptable carrier designed for the rapid strike role.
Light Carrier (CVL) - Limited in use and generally an auxiliary ship.
Escort Carrier (CVE) - Fast carrier designed for local defence of a flotilla or convoy.


Next we see they use the term Battlecruiser. This is clearly an article on the modern navies, and, according to the definition I outlined in my earlier post, Battlecruisers no longer exist. People often classify the Russian Kirov class as Battlecruisers, though they are strictly speaking, abnormally large guided missile cruisers. Certainly the role of the traditional Battlecruiser has been entirely phased out with the introduction of the very long range missile weaponry of fast Destroyer type vessels, and of the Carrier group.


Finally, Pocket Battleship. Oh dear. This is an entirely informal term, and was only ever assigned to the Graf Spee class of ships in WW2. The Germans themselves referred to these ships as Panzerschiffe (Armoured Ships). They were simply large Commerce Raiders designed to operate independently, and bore no resemblance to Battleships whatsoever.

Of course, open source information is always found to be wanting and for good reason.

Was not trying to get all real life up in here.

Just dropped that wiki link as it was way much closer to the mark than Tvtropes.

Graf Spee was no Bismark but we all know it was just the Germans contravening the limitations set out by the Treaty of Versailles. Much like how panzer training was done by crews in mock-up tanks made from wood placed over cars.