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# 40
02-03-2013, 11:09 AM
Originally Posted by mozoha View Post
Garbage becuz spike damage is king and imagine the following: dropping 10 mines with a 10% crit chance means I will get 1 mine to crit, dropping sets of mines 10 times means that I have critted a total of 10 mines spread out across 2-3 minutes, which anybody can out heal. As is, once every 2-3 minutes I have a chance to crit an entire set of mines and seriously damage someone..... Not vaporize them but damage them enough that it is worthwhile to follow up with some sort of kill combo.
I don't pretend to know all the math, but the way I see it is mines and the breen trans torp should stay with the chain crit or I THINK they will become useless.
I could be wrong... But I think you are.
It's very true how spike damage is king in this game, but that is also getting into another topic.

Well, if you drop 10 sets of mines, yes, on average you will get 10 mines to crit, or if you one-crit them all, you will get 10 all at once. But in an open PvP, like Ker'rat, who knows what could be happening though.

There's a lot of things in there (Ker'rat), primarily other players and the Borg. Often times people are alone as well. As such, some people may not have the heals (escorts most of the time) to handle that, especially if they have been attacked by others or the Borg.

In a decent PvP match between two teams (regardless of the match type), it can just be out-healed, true, but it can be potent to keep a dedicated healer healing themselves, preventing heals on other people.

I use normal transphasics, transphasic mines, and the Breen cluster torp on my B'rel in Ker'rat all the time. I don't always get kills with the Cluster torp, but I can often times really lay a quick hurting on someone if I time it right, and will keep up on a person, holding the pressure and such.

All of this is even without the chain-critting.

Now the only real way of knowing who is 'right' isn't this discussion, we'll only really see if and when they actually fix the chain-critting issue. Only then we will see just how mines are affected, for good or ill.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.