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Originally Posted by ussultimatum
Yeah, that was the point.
Feel free to go and compare those lockbox/fleet Sci & Cruiser ships to Cstore Sci and Cruiser ships that are not the Vesta or Ody.
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Galors and D'Koras are tough opponents-but they're not even in the same LEAGUE as Jem ships in terms of performance in PvP, meaning that even with their Shield mods, they're still killable, even with a BoP that isn't the Hoh'sus.
Likewise the Timeships. They're GOOD, but not Jem'Hadar good, even someone as crap at this game as I am, has a decent chance of taking one down. Minus the special consoles it's even a pretty DECENT chance, which is not something that can be said of the Jem Bug.
IOW, yes, they're better than Free ships-but not so much better that they render the non-lockbox/pay ships irrelevant. The Bugship, otoh, DOES render other ships irrelevant. If these are, as you say later in the post, T5.5, then the Bugship's a T6 level opponent-as I said EARLIER, taking one into most PvP is like taking a Fleet Somraw up against T3 opponents-The only way it's a "Skilled Kill" driving a Bugship, is either (a) said bugship's facing OTHER bugships, or (b) the Bugship driver's new to the game and facing a well-established Premade team while carrying a random Pug group.
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Again, missing the forest for the trees.
The Vesta has 0.5 higher mod than other C store sci ships.
The Wells has a higher mod (1.45) than all C store sci ships.
The Galor has Sci ship level shielding at a whopping 1.3 mod, .15 higher than the Ody.
The Wells has a 1.45 mod.
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The intent of the statement was "High Shield Multiplier"-sci ships are SUPPOSED to have that.
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Mimey's point is irrelevant.
Fleet & Lockbox ships are effectively their own tier at this point. They have no business being compared to the majority of "T5" C store ships when they are clear Tier 5.5 or higher in stats.
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Yup, and among those, the Jem Bug is the one (and only) design that lacks any flaws to counter it's advantages.
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lol
Get used to it
$$$ = better ships
Free to $25 = decent ships
I have to get over that I'll never have a T5 fleet ship, but I ain't whining, I don't wanna spend the $$$ for it. ( the $$$ referring to the cost to get your base/shipyard to T5 )
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The fleet ships don't match up to the Bugship-there are a couple Feddie fleet ships that come closer than everything else, but that's like saying an Opel Kadet is almost a BMW M-5, or a 72 camaro is ALMOST a Ferrari F-40.
as for the rest of the statement, it raises the question of whether winning PvP in THIS game is worth paying for, when the 'bragging rights' come down to "I bought a win" ?