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# 68
02-06-2013, 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by user839020189287 View Post
Greeks, in western culture, were more considered to be Philosophers, Traders, Tutors. The Spartans exemplified the Warrior, of course but they were not the norm for Greek culture as a whole. They were the only Greeks to not have city walls as they considered their fighting men to be the best defense.

Maybe devs and canon checkers for the IP holders are jumping onto the popularity wagon which was been rolling since the movie 300 came out and made things Thlingon, Lacedaemon.

Actually on an unrelated note: Frank Miller's version of the 300 honor/personal guard of Leonidas, was suppose to be much more brutal. But he said he didn't want to scare people, so he toned it down lol

"This is... Qo'noS!"

Come to think of it, now I think they directly tried to reference that. Funny how the original Lacedaemons thought themselves to be philosophers first and warriors second. It was one of the best kept secrets and history remembers them best as brutes and rough people. Oh, the irony.

Well keeping some things to themselves usually worked to their benefit. But we were/are both.

Laconic is a term that comes from their way of speech which was "to the point"... bet ya didn't see that coming. Their terse use of language also supports their being philosophers and explains why we in the KDf got our **** together.

Yes. I know, I'm Hellenic. My mother is from Sparta...Laconia specifically. If you ever met my brethren in Laconia (close to Skala and Palaiochori) you'll immediately notice that

Romulans and Remans are Roman. It supports Vulcans being Jewish as the first Christians appeared in Rome as a Jewish cult and later, influenced their empire, thus maintaining a connection. Messy to explain but an association inherent.

Theory-crafting, in cultural terms, makes me feel uncomfortable though and I apologize if anyone feels offended.

No worries. There will always be someone who is knowledgeable to tell you if you are making mistakes there's always room to learn. Unless you come across somebody from a pseudo-culture that has known nothing but propaganda, in which case it is better to cross the street to avoid the headaches lol

This would explain why Gene Roddenberry refrained from citing sources directly and on the record.

Well he was never the aggressive type, as far as I know. So he would avoid a **** storm when he could. I could be wrong lol