cruisers are underpowered...
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Join Date: Aug 2012
02-06-2013, 05:46 PM
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Ens: EPTS1, EPTA1 or EPTW1 or EPTE1 (probably aux for support build)
Lt: ET2 x 1 or 2, Aux2damp (if needed vs stun heavy team)
LtCmdr:ES2, Aux2Sif2 or ES2
Cmr: ES3 or Aux2Sif3 or ET3
Doffs:Eptx cooldown reducing doffs, ES doff(s), and/or maint doff(s)
For variety add in EWP w/doffs, or DEM w/doffs.
Again these ships (Fed support cruisers) are meant to repair.
T4 passives/rom sci consoles aside, pressure damage cruisers are different. They don't have 2 tac consoles for starters. To me I just can get past using the right tool for the job, instead of trying to redesign a tool away from what it was originally built for. I don't see anything in Eng Boff layouts that prevents them from doing this role.
It's not just Cruisers, though - it's those Ensign Engineering BOFFs.
If there's just a single Lt Eng BOFF - is that going to vary much from ship to ship? Compare that to Tac or Sci.
Lt and En? How much variety are you looking at? Compare to Tac and Sci?
It's almost always going to be the same abilities selected for the Engineering BOFFs. How many are you going to change depending on if you're doing Support, Tanking, or "Pressure" Damage?
Then look at the sheer variety for Tacs. Are you using Cannons? Are you using Beams? Are you using Torps? Are you using Mines? Are you using a mix? Going to run dual TT or have you DOFF'd TT to run one and boost APs because you don't want to run 3+ Teams? Are you running dual APO or just one because you're using PH from Sci as well?
Look at it for Sci... and it makes Tacs look limited in choice.
Go back to Eng, eh?
EPtA for support or EPtW for pressure.
ES for support or DEM for pressure.
Where does BP fit in? What about AB? What about higher ranks or lower ranks of other abilities?
It's not just a case of having a more limited selection of both abilities and groups - it's also a case that some of the abilities simply don't fit in with anything outside of playing in your sleep through replay missions.
What Cruiser should use AB3?
What Cruiser should use BP3?
What Cruiser should use EPtA3?
I still can't get past the feeling that they created Tacs/Escorts, Sci/SVs, and then added in Eng/Cruisers.
Look at SVs. Subsystem Targeting? So they have innate Tac BOFF abilities? Sensor Analysis? You mean something that a Tac bridge officer might be doing in the shows or movies?
Look at Sci BOFF abilities. HE? Screams Engineering. PH? Screams Engineering.
But then again, RSP/ES both scream Science. Boarding Party screams Tactical.
One can easily go through and see where things are mixed up in various areas. They're just things that have always bugged me.
While so many folks are off wanting the Cruisers to be Escorts - I've just done my best /picard while looking at everything else...
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