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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 105
# 260
02-12-2013, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickngo View Post
I REALLY have to question that assertion, as there ARE Jem pilots here who insist that it's not OP because they get beaten...in the JHAS.

Seems to me that, all other stats and such being equal, a JHAS should be mopping the floor with every other escort out there (along with cruisers, sci ships, raiders etc.) just on the base of the thing's basic stats, including high impulse mod, 5 tac consoles, BOP maneuverability and Cruiser shielding (along with the Uni stations it also carries).

So here's what I see-if I'm killing a Jem bug by using my Bird of Prey, that Bug-driver would be dead meat in a Bird of Prey, or a Raptor, or any of the Fedscorts.

If I'm getting CLOSE to killing him, then he's probably not skilled enough to fly anything with lesser stats-maybe as a result of having the enormous crutch of a ship that is significantly OP from the get-go.

IF he's not taking down two or more in a pass, or if he's having trouble taking me or another BoP driver out, then he'd be pretty helpless in anything else.

It's only when a Bug Driver's taking down OTHER bug drivers on a regular basis, that I'm inclined to believe he's as good as he thinks he is.

See, I see it as the problem of the Bitchin' Camaro-(or the Ferrari driver)-probably not competent to make a run in anything LESS perfect, and I've seen this with certan former fleetmates-the same person who actively avoids PvP in a Raptor or BoP, yet fails to outperforme someone as mediocre as myself. The gear doesn't make you good, it just makes it easy-and easy doesn't make you any better.

The Jem'bug is an EASY MODE ship, as such it weakens your skills when you use it too extensively because 'Everything is easy with a Bugship."

But as I continue to maintain-dont' nerf it. What it needs, is competitors so that that 'easy mode' condition no longer persists, and a true "Elite" position matching the rhetoric can actually be obtained.
I think your using some false logic to back up your argument.
Firstly-That fifth tac console means absolutely nothing to your dps...and most "Pilots" will tell you that.
Secondly-If your "almost" bringing down a bug with your bop, then you're either a spike bop or a person that is simply better than that bug pilot. I wouldn't make the assumption that you "almost" killed him in a bug that you'd definitely kill him in any other ship.
Sure the ship gives you an edge, ships in this game are like consoles, even though they may be the same "tier" they have different values of worth to individuals.
But in all honesty i haven't seen a non spike bop take out a good escort pilot in a while... without help at least.