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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 268
02-24-2013, 08:20 AM
Here's a snippet of my combat log from ISE done this morning. I will try and bold the inexplicable damage spikes and put color comments on a couple that are really weird.


[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 572 (990) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1000 (1575) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 175 (3030) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 974 (1533) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 170 (2950) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 572 (990) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 0 Physical Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 572 (990) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 941 (1482) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 165 (2852) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Array dealt 953 (1501) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 167 (2888) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.

[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Torpedo dealt 5269 (26258) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 587 (1016) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 2918 (51088) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
Note: Supertorpedo

[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 572 (990) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Array dealt 855 (1346) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 150 (2591) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 587 (1016) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 587 (1016) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 587 (1016) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Array dealt 1100 (1733) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 193 (3334) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 889 (1401) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 156 (2695) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 587 (1016) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 0 Physical Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Array dealt 1056 (1663) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 185 (3201) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 0 Physical Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 587 (1016) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Array dealt 1080 (1701) shield damage to you.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 189 (3272) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 587 (1016) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo
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[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo dealt 5270 (26264) shield damage to you.
Note: Yet another unbuffed torp damage spike in the base damage.

[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 552 (956) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.

[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 2918 (51098) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
Note: Yet another unbuffed torp damage spike in the base damage.

[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 587 (1016) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 552 (956) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 512 (1016) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 0 Physical Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:04] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 0 Physical Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Array dealt 855 (962) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 107 (2592) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Array dealt 948 (1067) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 119 (2874) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Array dealt 887 (998) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 111 (2687) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo dealt 5023 (17987) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1999 (48706) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 410 (994) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.

Note: Supertorpedo. This one is very curious. It is all from ONE torpedo. At first we see a really strange variance of 17k base damage dealing 5k applied damage to the shields but it doesnt say WHAT kind of damage (kinetic?). Then we have the same torpedo, somehow, inflicting a second hit for a massive ~49k damage and applying 2k kinetic damage (damage so far to shields: 7k'ish) and finally the plasma burn dot.

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Array dealt 848 (954) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 106 (2569) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 933 (1050) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 117 (2828) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1021 (1149) shield damage to you.
Note: Heavy plasma cannon suddenly hitting for 95% of its base damage on shields that have approximately 70% resists to plasma (20% plasma resist +Emg2Shld3+Trnsfr Shld3+shld power base @70).

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1477 (1407) shield damage to you.
Note: Another heavy plasma cannon spike. Notice the shot inmediately before it does not do this spike so it is not that my ship was under some debuff effect os anything (not that I know any effect that debuffs shield resists).

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1318 (1255) shield damage to you.

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[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1427 (1359) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 151 (2615) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.

+

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Array dealt 1219 (1161) shield damage to you.

+

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1643 (1565) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 129 (2234) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 174 (3012) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.

+

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Array dealt 1266 (1206) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 134 (2320) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1338 (1274) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 142 (2452) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1419 (1351) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 150 (2600) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.

Note: Looking at all the above +'s bolded spikes you can see a pattern. Some shots hit me for normal damage others for extremely high damage. This is not the effect of a ship firing weapons under a buff nor of my ship having a debuff on it. This all happens in the space of seconds and well within the duration of any known buff/debuff ability. Therefore this is NOT caused by buffs or debuffs. The weapon itself is spiking a huge damage variance at random.


[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Torpedo dealt 7866 (23716) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 6839 (53503) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.Note: The HOLY CRAP super-torpedo.

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 619 (1073) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 619 (1073) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Array dealt 1266 (1206) shield damage to you.
Note: Another plasma array spike.

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 134 (2320) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 619 (1073) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 619 (1073) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 619 (1073) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 909 (1432) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 159 (2755) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 950 (1497) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 166 (2880) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 619 (1073) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Array dealt 838 (1320) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 147 (2539) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.

this last bit is normal spam damage. I mean just look at that..it does reflect my SHIELD RESISTS working properly.


Lets look at two supertorpedo logs again:

First one:
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo dealt 5023 (17987) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1999 (48706) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 410 (994) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.

Second one:
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Torpedo dealt 7866 (23716) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 6839 (53503) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.

Both happen inside one minute time, from different sources. Both are regular plasma torpedoes.

So... the game is spiking torpedo damage and applying resists correctly:

First supertorp did a total of 66.6k (17987+48706) as base damage. It did 5k damage to shields and 2k damage to hull. The game splits the combat log into shield and hull damage if the shield is stripped off by the torpedo.

The second torpedo did 56k base damage, hit the shield for 7866 dmg and stripped it off and then applied almost 7k damage to the hull.

What's wrong with this:

An unbuffed plasma torpedo spiking to 60k+ damage. this is the equivalent of a high yield 3 in a player with good torp skills.

What's good with it:

The shield vs kinetic resists are working and the 'kinetic' damage entry is the damage applied to hull from the leftoever damage amount and mitigated by hull kinetic resists.


...but this does not explain the sudden spikes+no plasma damage mitigation in the shield from the heavy plasma cannon and plasma array hits.

A good example:

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Array dealt 1266 (1206) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 134 (2320) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Array.

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1338 (1274) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 142 (2452) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.

[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Heavy Plasma Cannon dealt 1419 (1351) shield damage to you.
[10:05] [Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 150 (2600) Plasma Damage to you with Heavy Plasma Cannon.


As mentioned in notes my plasma resists are basically maxed out yet the weapon is inflicting non-crit, non-buffed damage with this weapon that is higher than the base damage. To the shields... in random spikes.

I have seen the beam array and the heavy plasma cannon proc critical hits in my combat log before (didnt happen in this one sadly) so it is not a case of the combat log not displaying crits for this weapon.

These spikes in both plasma weapons and torpedoes have been around for a long time but as of 3 patches ago their frequency has been increased to utterly ridiculous levels. Just look at this log and you will see that in the space of less than one minute (and this is just 1/4th of the total combat log for just 2 minutes of combat) I had multiple spike hits from two different sources.

It is so silly that not even Tac team running can keep the shield facing stable.
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Last edited by cmdrskyfaller; 02-24-2013 at 09:40 AM.