LoR Romulan Ship Designations
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04-01-2013, 02:40 AM
Originally Posted by
Honestly, I have no problem with this development whatsoever, and I think fans that have their ears too close to canon are taking this way too seriously.
Personally, I always found the fact that both the Klingons
the Romulans have starship types called "Bird-of-Prey" somewhat confusing. Yes, I
why that was. That doesn't mean I didn't find it any less ridiculous (
Romulan D-7 Battlecruiser
anyone?). The fact that Cryptic seems to be taking steps now to address this is refreshing, and it helps cement the uniqueness of the Romulan ships overall.
And consider that now the ships are
called "Light Warbirds". Which does imply that these ships are, in fact, light hit-and-run style starships. They just also
to be Romulan Warbirds.
Let the Klingons keep their "Birds-of-Prey". I'm fine with
You misunderstand me. Warbird is the only thing 'canon' that I was thinking about here. It's not a matter of this class or another. The human mind identifies hierarchically. We see something that belongs in a category, gets a type and finally a classification. A Warbird is analogous to a heavy cruiser. You wouldn't call a frigate or gunboat a light or medium cruiser. Neither are cruisers, they're too small and they don't surve the correct purpose. You wouldn't call every ship in the USN a battleship. You wouldn't call a Klingon BoP, a 50-80 manned ship with a light hull and medium powered weapons, a battle cruiser.
Just because you have two different BoP variants or thirty Warbird variants, doesn't mean you separate them by type, they are already of the same type. You change the class. D'Deridex class Warbird, Valdore class Warbird. They are both heavy cruisers and fulfill the same role in the fleet. The difference is that the Valdore class is newer, faster, more maneuverable and more advanced. The class tells us which variation a ship fits within a ship type.
Originally Posted by
I'm not even bashing Star Trek fans, considering I'm one myself. I'm admonishing Star Trek fans who take their interpretation of canon a smidge too seriously.
And I'm well aware of the reason they came up with for the TV show as to
the Romulans had Klingon D-7 battlecruisers. I even
I was aware. I'm
aware of the production-side of things, why the show's producers had to use a Klingon ship, because that decision is why they came up with the in-continuity explanation in the first place.
I even stated that I already knew these reasons, and
found it ridiculous.
Besides, while the Klingons may have gotten the ship designation "Bird-of-Prey" from the Romulans, the Klingons made them much more iconic than the Romulans ever did. When people think "Bird-of-Prey", they most likely jump right to picturing a Klingon one.
Warbirds are the ships that people associate most with the Romulans, since Romulan Warbirds had more on-screen appearances than any Romulan Bird-of-Prey ever did.
I stand by my previous assessments.[/QU0TE]
You're right about the Klingons making the BoP an iconic name and the same about the Romulans and warbirds. That's how it was such a glaring oversight in ST:2009 when they called the Klingon ships warbirds. I think it is because Klingons are commonly seen in the BoP. They Klingon military is composed of individuals loyal to a family banner almost as much as the flag of the empire itself. The Romulans were much less likely to appear in a strike ship/corvette. I think they attempted to avoid this confusion in TNG by simply referring to their smaller ships simply as Romulan scout ships.
You might want to fix your quote tags.
Edit: They almost made my post look bad, too... so I made some typos on purpose.
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