yup, defenatly^^

Nothing wrong with Feds doing a formation.

IF Klingons would not have cloak, we would do the same "ball"

we dont need to make balls, we have em to start with!

Well thats true, it seems the permanent camp they make at the start spawn gate is there even when our team decloaks 18-20km away and start waiting face to face.

More of this trite nonsense; people throwing around a goofy term that simply means "staying together" as some sort of flimsy insult. What would you suggest, oh master of tactics? That we spread out and give you five separate 5v1 battles?

Decent Klingon teams stick together.
Decent Federation teams stick together.
It's PvP 101, find something else to cry about.

I agree with your part at the end there. However, in a post I made in the combat forum, there are two problems.

1- Add a Spawn/Setup Timer

2-The Game can't count (don't spawn in ONE guy against 5 guys that are sitting at the respawn point)

It it that simple. If one team gets into the match and groups up first, the other team is screwed. They won't be able to gather to even stand a chance. And it becomes several 5 vs 1 match, instead of a team deathmatch. In fact, which ever side gets their team all into the match first, WINS! And then since they won due to getting into the match first they gloat unjustifiably.

I will chalk it up and die a few times by being tossed into situations like that. But when they want to trash talk afterwards, it makes me laugh, because they REALLY think it was only skill that allowed them to win.

Really?

Klingons load in
Klingons cloak and move to Feds
Klingons stare at feds
Klingons stare some more
Klingons Stare at each other
Klingons stare at the Feds again
One Klingon gets bored, uncloaks and attacks
Klingons stare at their dead comrade

9 time out of 10 none have the balls to come out of cloak in a pug and if you end up in a match where they all want to then they tend to be Kamikaze players, yes i play KDF. Edit - 9 times out f 10 is a bit of an exaggeration, but you get the idea.

Unfortunately feds can't use this tactic as they do not have the luxury of being able to recon the enemy before the engagement begins, get into a perfect position, choose the ideal targets for each player the wait for the Klingons to get bored and move in when they have just about given up.

War is not fair.

Sometimes we Klingons get there ahead of the Feds and lay an ambush.

Sometimes the Feds do the same.

Sometimes we spawn with only 2 or 3 ships against 5.

Well that happens to the Feds to.

Do I cry? No. Do I come here and tell the Devs their PvP queue is broken? No. I suck it up, and I play through it because WAR IS NOT FAIR. And think about it - when you can win against the odds, that's how you go from thinking you're good to KNOWING that you're good.

So how about everybody just play through it, enjoy the challenge it provides, and know that in the end you'll be a better player for it.

A well played Fedball is just as powerful as a well played Klingon alpha strike from cloak. It all comes down to teamwork. Don't got any? Then you will fail. Every time.