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# 1 Diplomat that drains wep power
03-01-2014, 04:46 PM
So, what do you ppl make of new space doff that drains wep power upon TT? She's a Voth (space) Diplomat, and drains -35.9 wep power (25% chance) on any team abilty (like TT).

Too bad you can't parse doff procs. But what are your experiences with it?
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# 2
03-01-2014, 06:44 PM
I'm using her on my sci ship. Max flow capacitor skill plus embassy flow capacitor consoles, she drains 39 weapon power. Ability is capped at once per 5 secs, so there's no point to using more than 1 copy of her.

Tbh I'm not really impressed. I might be wrong on how she works, but from what I can tell the 5 sec rule limits her uses against swarms, and against bigger ships I can already shut down practically all npcs with leech plus tykens so her drain doesn't add much. For me, she'd be more useful if her ability was once per target every 5 secs like the elachi weapons to aoe drain fighter swarms that I have trouble with, as she is right now I'd drop her for the cleanse debuffs on eptx doff if that doff wasn't so darn expensive.

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# 3
03-01-2014, 06:59 PM
As a tac/drain build I plan to make use of this doff when I get a 6th slot for it.

Between using the doff that grants a 25% chance at a subsystem offline using energy siphon, the mentioned doff, the doff that grants an additional chance of subsystem offline in conjunction with subsystem attacks, phased polaron weapons, tyken's rift, doff with a 1% chance to strip 3 random buffs, dyson set's proton barrage, plasmonic leech and energy siphon you can pretty much devastate any possibility of an enemy having the power to do much for long.

Heck you can even throw in a viral matrix w/doff for even more downtime of enemies, this is a huge benefit not only to yourself, but also to the team.
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# 4
03-01-2014, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by no09dysonsphere View Post
I'm using her on my sci ship. Max flow capacitor skill plus embassy flow capacitor consoles, she drains 39 weapon power. Ability is capped at once per 5 secs, so there's no point to using more than 1 copy of her.

Tbh I'm not really impressed. I might be wrong on how she works, but from what I can tell the 5 sec rule limits her uses against swarms, and against bigger ships I can already shut down practically all npcs with leech plus tykens so her drain doesn't add much. For me, she'd be more useful if her ability was once per target every 5 secs like the elachi weapons to aoe drain fighter swarms that I have trouble with, as she is right now I'd drop her for the cleanse debuffs on eptx doff if that doff wasn't so darn expensive.
Thx.

Is the power she drains actually being transferred to yourself? For some reason I get the impression it isn't.

And yeah, reason I made the topic is because, so far, I wasn't overly impressed myself yet.
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# 5
03-01-2014, 07:57 PM
Lol, all the drainers came out of the shadows on this topic. That doff's drain goes up pretty high, but I've never tested it to see how it looks when it procs. BTW, 35-39 drain is low compared to where mine is at.
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# 6
03-01-2014, 08:16 PM
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Is the power she drains actually being transferred to yourself? For some reason I get the impression it isn't.
I don't think so... I think I would've noticed a huge spike in my weapon power ...

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Lol, all the drainers came out of the shadows on this topic. That doff's drain goes up pretty high, but I've never tested it to see how it looks when it procs. BTW, 35-39 drain is low compared to where mine is at.
Eh, I prioritize particle generators to boost my gravity well damage, the power drain is just icing on the cake. My tests show she drains an additional .1 power for every point in flow capacitors, so with a full complement of embassy flow capacitor consoles I'd be up to 48.5. But like I said in pve it's hard to imagine a situation that needs that much power drain, at least not for weapons. Shields would be a totally different story.

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# 7
03-01-2014, 09:03 PM
I retire my previous comment. That's what happens when I don't write down my equations. Anyway, it can still go higher than 48.5.

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# 8
03-02-2014, 08:16 AM
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I don't think so... I think I would've noticed a huge spike in my weapon power ...

Eh, I prioritize particle generators to boost my gravity well damage, the power drain is just icing on the cake. My tests show she drains an additional .1 power for every point in flow capacitors, so with a full complement of embassy flow capacitor consoles I'd be up to 48.5. But like I said in pve it's hard to imagine a situation that needs that much power drain, at least not for weapons. Shields would be a totally different story.
Hmm, if the power doesn't go to me, then I'm suddenly a lot less interested. Maybe I should slot the cleanser doff again; or one that gives an aftershock gravity well.

Thx all for your replies, though.
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# 9
03-03-2014, 04:21 PM
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Thx.

Is the power she drains actually being transferred to yourself? For some reason I get the impression it isn't.

And yeah, reason I made the topic is because, so far, I wasn't overly impressed myself yet.
The first days this diplomat came along, I asked this question around here and to my fleet : no response.

So I tried it and I did get the impression too that the power isn't transferred to myself.
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# 10
03-03-2014, 05:59 PM
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The first days this diplomat came along, I asked this question around here and to my fleet : no response.

So I tried it and I did get the impression too that the power isn't transferred to myself.
No it doesn't transfer to yourself, it is meant to act like a polaron proc or an weapons subsystem attack minus the offline chance.
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