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It seriously reminds me of todays ocean liners, or those big "boats" from 2012. The tiny nacells don't help matters either lol. I guess while i'm here I should hate on the Trident too...
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# 2
03-05-2010, 03:58 AM
Yeah...the USS Loveboat....

on the other hand the Typhoon class is pretty nice to look at
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# 3
03-05-2010, 10:32 AM
I have not seen this yet but some of the Playable Federation designs ... really do not follow Star Fleet Architectural Grace...

I did not have trouble choosing a T4 Model at all...Because in my eyes there was only one federation Design amongst the choices.

Same with T2 for the most part...what i particularly dislike is the lack of hangar bays/doors in the new models Cryptic has made..and the disproportionate Nacelles.... some look like a baby bath toy stuck on a cardboard...

Star fleet design Lines have to be graceful...proportionate..organically and logically following...anyways...my aesthetic eye needed to let some pressure go.
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# 4
03-05-2010, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Suraknar View Post
I have not seen this yet but some of the Playable Federation designs ... really do not follow Star Fleet Architectural Grace...

I did not have trouble choosing a T4 Model at all...Because in my eyes there was only one federation Design amongst the choices.

Same with T2 for the most part...what i particularly dislike is the lack of hangar bays/doors in the new models Cryptic has made..and the disproportionate Nacelles.... some look like a baby bath toy stuck on a cardboard...

Star fleet design Lines have to be graceful...proportionate..organically and logically following...anyways...my aesthetic eye needed to let some pressure go.
I would suggest that the aesthetic designs of old may have been more costly and perhaps the Federation has put more emphasis on low cost, quick to build ships due to the war status.

Clearly the ships built from the 2270's thru 2300 had longevity since they were still using Excelsior classes 80 years later. These ships were the best built and most eye-pleasing, imo. The golden age of Starfleet engineering has past, I feel.
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# 5
03-05-2010, 11:38 AM
The Dreadnought model would be suitable as a NON-Starfleet ship.

Starfleet has demonstrated a strong design ethic which is consistent in all eras (even the pre-Fed Enterprise era). The Dreadnought is a radical departure from this established design ethic, and so should be dropped in favor of a design that does follow it.

The Fed T4Cruiser ships are poorly done (the Galaxy is riddled with so many basic flaws, that it is a separate thread all to itself). The Envoy, in particular, is AWFUL, and does not fit in with the other designs in this group in the slightest.
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# 6
03-05-2010, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kanid
I would suggest that the aesthetic designs of old may have been more costly and perhaps the Federation has put more emphasis on low cost, quick to build ships due to the war status.

Clearly the ships built from the 2270's thru 2300 had longevity since they were still using Excelsior classes 80 years later. These ships were the best built and most eye-pleasing, imo. The golden age of Starfleet engineering has past, I feel.
Aesthetics, and Architectural ethics and Tradition has nothing to do with cost. have you seen the Nacelles and of one of the T4 ships... (I am sorry I did not even memorize the name of these ships)...the other one looks like it came out of Cobra Commander's Garage, to say nothing about the spoon Pylons.

I understand Cryptic wants to add its own artistic flair and originality in to this and with some designs they have done really great even the Destiny looks Star Fleet, as well as the Cerberus..but the T2 Cruisers other than the Enterprise and T4 Cruisers other than the Galaxy are...not it.

There have been Thousands of nice designs over the years from so many sources to draw inspiration from...heck..if Cryptic wanted they could do it like FLS in POTBS and have us the players make ships...player created content...give the word and i'll fire up Maya and give it my best!

And through this all, the Excelsior and the Ambassador as well as the Nebula...all very Iconic Ship Designs...have been Neglected!
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# 7
03-05-2010, 03:40 PM
You mean the USS Victory? The one thats shaped like a toilet with warp nacelles?
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