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Lt. Commander
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Dear Cryptic, there are literally hundreds of threads with enough "nerd rages" to give some of the folks heartattack. What are the threads about? It's as to whether the AGT Galaxy Cruiser will remain only through the Referral Promotion or it will eventually be accessible via C-Store.

When I cruise around with the AGT Galaxy Cruiser, the general consensus of the majority of the people who don't have the ship seems to be that they will not participate in the Referral Promotion program because they are extremely confident that the ship will eventually be available through C-Store.

Making so many of the "exclusive" items available through C-Store generated a bad precedent. Now, almost everyone seems to think that any items available through special promotion from Cryptics will be handed out later through C-Store at petty price and there's absolutely no reason to participate in these promotion.

Dear Cryptic, we beg you. Could you please give us an answer as to whether the ship will be sold in the C-Store later? It would be extremely disheartening for those who spent possibly weeks to recruit five people to get a beautiful ship (or let alone, those who spent their own money), to learn that several months from now, the ship will be available via C-Store.

Dear Cryptic, please. Give us an answer so all of us can stop arguing and move on? Just one thread of your answer will stop clogging your forum with hundreds of unneeded threads regarding this issue.
Lt. Commander
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# 2
06-16-2010, 07:15 PM
Yes I would greatly appreciate an answer to this question also.
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# 3
06-16-2010, 07:33 PM
/signed me too but they have set a bad precedent by putting the exclusives in the cstore now the message is if We whine hard enough cryptic will give us what we want
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# 4
06-16-2010, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by panthro View Post
/signed me too but they have set a bad precedent by putting the exclusives in the cstore now the message is if We whine hard enough cryptic will give us what we want
Agree now anyone who wants anything will just complain endlessly
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# 5
06-16-2010, 08:38 PM
I can see why some are upset over the offering of pre-order items via the C-Store after buying multiple copies but as has been pointed out numerous times the pre-order FAQ made it pretty clear they would likely be available at some point after launch. For me personally I only got one version, I looked at what I'd likely prefer and picked that. Would I have bought more copies if I had the money in order to get more of the pre-order items? No. The thought didn't even enter my mind at the time and reading that others had done so was quite baffling to me. However, that was my choice just as it was everyone elses choice to buy more than one copy if they chose to despite the pre-order FAQ stating what it does.

With regards to the referral program, and I speak for myself here even if I'm pretty sure lots of others feel similarly, I wouldn't refer anyone I know to the game because it is lacking so much right now. Even if I ignore that and went down the "I want" route doing anything to get friends into the game I'd have a difficult time because nobody I know is interested in Star Trek. It may be well known but a subscription MMO is not something everyone is willing to accept.

The referral program reward is pretty fantastic for Cryptic because it clearly has people doing whatever it takes to get referrals in when they otherwise wouldn't. The referral program is pretty pathetic because people that come in will end up where a lot of us are now in a month - stuck with a game that has a lot of bugs, some worse than others, a lack of content variation and can see you reach maximum level then sit around doing dailies waiting for future content patches.

Do I think the Galaxy X will be available at a later date? Honestly, yes. Why? It's in relatively high demand and after the referral push has been done to death with no more interest generated due to bad feelings toward it or other reasons letting a potentially large cash cow sit there unmilked is bad business. If there's one thing a lot of people like to point out it's that Cryptic is a business, they make games but they still want as much money as possible from those games.

If you look at it from that point of view here's what seems plausible to me. After a few months or more of referral only it may be released on the C-Store. Given that the TOS Enterprise was released at 800 points (madness...) and that's a T1 starter ship I'd be amazed to see it on the store for less than 5,000 points. Ignoring the cost of that it would annoy and upset anyone that's gone out to get referrals, whether they've bought the game five times and done it that way or pushed the game on friends, foes, strangers etc. Would that really matter though? I hate to be blunt and cold about it but the money generated from the spike in referrals would likely be gone and the potential loss of customers would very likely be overshadowed by income from C-Store purchases of the ship. That's my opinion and thoughts on it
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# 6
06-16-2010, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyonas View Post
letting a potentially large cash cow sit there unmilked is bad business.
This one statement is the only thing that matters, and it equates to another statement from Stat Trek lore...The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few. If people look at it that way, then the needs of the many would equal Cryptic's need to provide; seems like the logical way to do business, elitists be damned.

I for one don't care what they sell, it's their game, not ours...we only rent it for a short while.
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# 7
06-17-2010, 11:32 AM
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# 8
06-18-2010, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tendel View Post
Agree, Cryptic, please respond with a binding answer based upon the TOS, so the forum can focus upon ideas for enhancing the game experience.

Similar to governance and politics, it's critically important that you, Cryptic, realize that maintaining and reinforcing loyalty amongst the various special interest groups supercedes any decision that would enhance the game experience for the general subscriber base; increase the general subscriber base loyalty; and increase revenue that would help sustain game development and growth.

To quote the Mirror Universe Spock: That is wise. Were I to invoke logic, however, logic clearly dictates that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many.
LoL. I find your post to be funny and seemingly true to life.
I also find it funny that now that so many have acquired the new "galaxy-X ship, they now don't want it to be in the C-store at all.
A lot of these same people are the very same who cried for the pre-order items to be in the c-store becuase it was unfair to withold these items from the playerbase, except now the tune changes when they have something they don't want to share with others.
Cryuptic has already set the precedent by putting pre-order items in the C-store, so I say all special items should eventually make to the c-store - including the Galaxy-X one day.
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# 9
06-18-2010, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
LoL. I find your post to be funny and seemingly true to life.
I also find it funny that now that so many have acquired the new "galaxy-X ship, they now don't want it to be in the C-store at all.
A lot of these same people are the very same who cried for the pre-order items to be in the c-store becuase it was unfair to withold these items from the playerbase, except now the tune changes when they have something they don't want to share with others.
Cryuptic has already set the precedent by putting pre-order items in the C-store, so I say all special items should eventually make to the c-store - including the Galaxy-X one day.
We don't need your petty demeanor. All i am asking is an answer from Cryptic. If Cryptic sells the Galaxy X and Liberated Borg via C-Store, let them do so.

All I am asking from Cryptic is, if they will make the AGT Cruiser available via C-Store before hundreds of others commit weeks of their times to recruit five people (or a fool and impulsive buyer like me who spent my own wallet), just to find out that they only had to wait for several months to purchase the ship for mere fraction of the price.

We beg you Cryptic. Please give us an answer.
Lt. Commander
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# 10
06-18-2010, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Monopolist
We don't need your petty demeanor. All i am asking is an answer from Cryptic. If Cryptic sells the Galaxy X and Liberated Borg via C-Store, let them do so.

All I am asking from Cryptic is, if they will make the AGT Cruiser available via C-Store before hundreds of others commit weeks of their times to recruit five people (or a fool and impulsive buyer like me who spent my own wallet), just to find out that they only had to wait for several months to purchase the ship for mere fraction of the price.

We beg you Cryptic. Please give us an answer.
Don't attack me for stating my opinion. I was niether rude or crude to anybody with my first post.
Its is very funny that when some of the lifers and pre-order players didn't want thier exclusive items put into the c-store for everybody to purchase, it was said they were being selfish.
Now that the players who have or are getting the Galaxy-X don't want thier exclusive toy to be shared eventually with the other players, its a vital dilema of extreme importance to get an answer.

Cryptic has already set precedence by allowing some of the lifer/preorder items into the C-store at the disaproval of those players, so why should the Gal-X be any different?
Cryptic can't start showing favortism now thats its too late, so why should it be wrong to put the Gal-X in the Cstore in 2011?
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