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# 1 Character Ranks... Beyond RA!
06-29-2010, 06:24 PM
Hey All,

In preparation of the upcoming skill cap increases over the course of future developments, here is a brief write-up of the currently planned character ranks!

Q: What are "grades"?

Grades are the levels in between the Ranks. For example, you are a Lieutenant at level 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, all the way up to 10, meaning there are 10 separate "grades" for the Lieutenant Rank.


Format: Federation Name/Klingon Name

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Lieutenant//Lieutenant
Levels: 1-10
Tier: 1
Grades: 10

Lt. Commander//Lt. Commander
Levels: 11-20
Tier: 2
Grades: 10

Commander//Commander
Levels: 21-30
Tier: 3
Grades: 10

Captain//Captain
Levels: 31-40
Tier: 4
Grades: 10

Rear Admiral, Lower Half//Brigadier General
Levels: 41-45
Tier: 5
Grades: 5

Rear Admiral, Upper Half//Major General
Levels: 46-50
Tier: 5
Grades: 5

---Planned Level Cap for Update 2: Level 51---

Vice Admiral//Lt. General
Levels: 51-55
Tier: 5
Grades: 5

Admiral//General
Levels: 56-60
Tier: 5
Grades: 5

Fleet Admiral//Dahar Master
Levels: 61-TBD
Tier: TBD
Grades: TBD
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# 2
06-29-2010, 06:28 PM
That actually clears up quite a bit of confusion. Thanks for the info.
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# 3
06-29-2010, 06:29 PM
I remain in the camp that we should at least have the option of using Commodore instead of Rear Admiral Lower Half. I mean, who wants to be promoted from Rear Admiral to... Rear Admiral...?
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# 4 @op: +1
06-29-2010, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
I mean, who wants to be promoted from Rear Admiral to... Rear Admiral...?
Me .

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Originally Posted by p0pr0cks View Post
-1 for Commodore!
Fixed.

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Originally Posted by starvagabond View Post
All Tier 5 Ships?

I hope we will see more ships soon.
A flagship is a flagship. There isn't enough (game-timeline) time for Starfleet to have developed the next generation of starships for t6 imo. There's also the problem of Starfleet not sending its best to fight the Borg in the STFs if t6 were to exist (this point also goes against that damn refit-an-ancient-ship-to-t5-capability that people keep begging for).
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# 5
07-05-2010, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AzureAlliance View Post
A flagship is a flagship. There isn't enough (game-timeline) time for Starfleet to have developed the next generation of starships for t6 imo. There's also the problem of Starfleet not sending its best to fight the Borg in the STFs if t6 were to exist (this point also goes against that damn refit-an-ancient-ship-to-t5-capability that people keep begging for).
All they'd really need to do is make some changes to the currrent tiers. Here's an example of how it could work with the current line-up and "new" ships (specifically the canon ships that Cryptic "missed):

Tier 1:
Miranda, Centaur, Shi'kaar (also TOS Constitution and possibly the NX class).

Tier 2:
Cruiser: Constitution, Excaliber, Vesper
Escort: Saber, Rapier, Ushaan
Science: Oberth & Derivatives

Tier 3
Heavy Cruiser: Cheyenne, Dakota, Stargazer (possibly Constellation)
Heavy Escort: Defiant, Gallant, Vigilant
Recon Vessel: Aurora, Nova, Quasar

Tier 4
Exploration Cruiser: Excelsior & Derivatives
Tactical Escort: Akira, Norway, Steamrunner
Research Vessel: Hope, Horizon, Olympic

Tier 5
Assault Cruiser: Celestial, Envoy, Galaxy (Possibly Ambassador)
Advanced Escort: Cerberus, Hephaestus, Phoenix, Prometheus
Long Range Vessel: Cochrane, Discovery, Intrepid

"Tier 6"
Star Cruiser: Imperial, Majestic, Noble, Sovereign; Avenger, Nomad, Vanguard, Emissary (Possibly Typhoon, if it's made playable)
Fleet Escort: Dervish, Gryphon, Hermes, Maelstrom
Deep Space Vessel: Nebula & Derivatives; Destiny, Oracle, Trident

I have no idea where the Galaxy X would go. This also does not include the Klingon ships, as I'm not familiar enough with those tiers to make any suggestions.
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# 6
07-05-2010, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Archanubis
All they'd really need to do is make some changes to the currrent tiers. Here's an example of how it could work with the current line-up and "new" ships (specifically the canon ships that Cryptic "missed):

Tier 1:
Miranda, Centaur, Shi'kaar (also TOS Constitution and possibly the NX class).

Tier 2:
Cruiser: Constitution, Excaliber, Vesper
Escort: Saber, Rapier, Ushaan
Science: Oberth & Derivatives

Tier 3
Heavy Cruiser: Cheyenne, Dakota, Stargazer (possibly Constellation)
Heavy Escort: Defiant, Gallant, Vigilant
Recon Vessel: Aurora, Nova, Quasar

Tier 4
Exploration Cruiser: Excelsior & Derivatives
Tactical Escort: Akira, Norway, Steamrunner
Research Vessel: Hope, Horizon, Olympic

Tier 5
Assault Cruiser: Celestial, Envoy, Galaxy (Possibly Ambassador)
Advanced Escort: Cerberus, Hephaestus, Phoenix, Prometheus
Long Range Vessel: Cochrane, Discovery, Intrepid

"Tier 6"
Star Cruiser: Imperial, Majestic, Noble, Sovereign; Avenger, Nomad, Vanguard, Emissary (Possibly Typhoon, if it's made playable)
Fleet Escort: Dervish, Gryphon, Hermes, Maelstrom
Deep Space Vessel: Nebula & Derivatives; Destiny, Oracle, Trident

I have no idea where the Galaxy X would go. This also does not include the Klingon ships, as I'm not familiar enough with those tiers to make any suggestions.
This sounds like the most sensible solution to date. I'm still upset that neither the Excelsior, Ambassador or Nebula Classes are in the game, despite the existence of both the Miranda and Constitution Classes in 2409.

If Cr(a)ptic decides to include these ships, they should be made available FREE OF CHARGE as alternate ships/skins in current or future tiers. Had enough of this nickle-and-dime BS.
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# 7
07-06-2010, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Archanubis
All they'd really need to do is make some changes to the currrent tiers. Here's an example of how it could work with the current line-up and "new" ships (specifically the canon ships that Cryptic "missed):

Tier 1:
Miranda, Centaur, Shi'kaar (also TOS Constitution and possibly the NX class).

Tier 2:
Cruiser: Constitution, Excaliber, Vesper
Escort: Saber, Rapier, Ushaan
Science: Oberth & Derivatives

Tier 3
Heavy Cruiser: Cheyenne, Dakota, Stargazer (possibly Constellation)
Heavy Escort: Defiant, Gallant, Vigilant
Recon Vessel: Aurora, Nova, Quasar

Tier 4
Exploration Cruiser: Excelsior & Derivatives
Tactical Escort: Akira, Norway, Steamrunner
Research Vessel: Hope, Horizon, Olympic

Tier 5
Assault Cruiser: Celestial, Envoy, Galaxy (Possibly Ambassador)
Advanced Escort: Cerberus, Hephaestus, Phoenix, Prometheus
Long Range Vessel: Cochrane, Discovery, Intrepid

"Tier 6"
Star Cruiser: Imperial, Majestic, Noble, Sovereign; Avenger, Nomad, Vanguard, Emissary (Possibly Typhoon, if it's made playable)
Fleet Escort: Dervish, Gryphon, Hermes, Maelstrom
Deep Space Vessel: Nebula & Derivatives; Destiny, Oracle, Trident

I have no idea where the Galaxy X would go. This also does not include the Klingon ships, as I'm not familiar enough with those tiers to make any suggestions.
I like this for the most part, but um, where is my Luna class? Also, I did like having multiple classes of ships at the top tier because we spend so much time there. It adds more customization to our ships other then just minor differences in appearance.
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# 8
09-11-2010, 11:47 AM
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Me .
... There's also the problem of Starfleet not sending its best to fight the Borg in the STFs if t6 were to exist (this point also goes against that damn refit-an-ancient-ship-to-t5-capability that people keep begging for).
That arguement is flawed. The Defiant was designed specificly to fight the Borg, and only their lack of persistance saw Defiant not be used against them until "First Contact" Akira, Steamrunner and Norway class ships were also built with the borg in mind, all of which were the leading edge of Starfleet ships. The reasons Enterprise-E wasn't ordered to fight the Borg in "First Contact" had to do with her Captain, not the ship.

Starfleet would send it's best against the Borg if it's available. Actually, it'd thro everything it can at the borg to stop them.
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# 9
09-11-2010, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AzureAlliance View Post
Me .
... There's also the problem of Starfleet not sending its best to fight the Borg in the STFs if t6 were to exist (this point also goes against that damn refit-an-ancient-ship-to-t5-capability that people keep begging for).
You will take away my T-5 Excelsior when you pry it from my cold dead hands!

Seriously ... There is a reason why the U.S.S. New Jersey saw use in the Gulf War.

Heck ... I knew someone that was there and swears up and down that the main reason she was retired from service was because her gun crews were hitting targets with the big guns with the accuracy that it made some wonder why we were spending all the money for the expensive guns when this ole girl was doing the job for a lot less U.S. "C-store" dollars.

Seriously .... Just because a ship is old doesn't mean she cannot get the job done.

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From wikipedia ... USS New Jersey (BB-62), ("Big J" or "Black Dragon") is an Iowa-class battleship, and was the second ship of the United States Navy to be named in honor of the U.S. state of New Jersey. New Jersey earned more battle stars for combat actions than the other three completed Iowa-class battleships, and is the only U.S. battleship to provide gunfire support during the Vietnam War.

During World War II, New Jersey shelled targets on Guam and Okinawa, and screened aircraft carriers conducting raids in the Marshall islands. During the Korean War, she was involved in raids up and down the North Korean coast, after which she was decommissioned into the United States Navy reserve fleets, better known as the "mothball fleet". She was briefly reactivated in 1968 and sent to Vietnam to support U.S. troops before returning to the mothball fleet in 1969. Reactivated once more in the 1980s as part of the 600-ship Navy program, New Jersey was modernized to carry missiles and recommissioned for service. In 1983, she participated in U.S. operations during the Lebanese Civil War.

New Jersey was decommissioned for the last time in 1991, having earned a Navy Unit Commendation for service in Vietnam and 19 battle and campaign stars for combat operations during World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Lebanese Civil War, and service in the Persian Gulf. After a brief retention in the mothball fleet, she was donated to the Home Port Alliance in Camden, New Jersey, and began her career as a museum ship 15 October 2001.
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# 10
09-11-2010, 05:54 PM
I'd like to see battleships and carriers appear at the new ranks.
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