Lt. Commander
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Seems like a lot of us are giving up. We just want content and we add "for the C-Store" to try and make it happen.

I hate the C-Store. It's pure evil. But I still find myself compromising and suggesting stuff for the C-Store when in reality, again, I hate it and believe nothing should be in it at all. The amount of content is already too small even compared to most MMOs out there to be charging me for other stuff.
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# 2
08-16-2010, 11:32 AM
Did you get that sig from the C-Store?
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# 3
08-16-2010, 11:40 AM
I look at it like this if i can have fun with out the extra cost then fine if i want to spend a few bucks for something flashy thats for looks great. I have no issue with the C-store as long as if they have something big it can also be gotten in game as well, and so far their working pretty well with this so more power to them. There are a lot of people out there that don't have the time to grind all day everyday to get something and the c-store covers those people. If you dont want to to spend money dont they are not forceing you to do anything.
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# 4
08-16-2010, 11:45 AM
The C-Store is a way for Cryptic to make a little extra cash in order to ensure the continuation of this game. For the most part it has cosmetic items which don't affect your gameplay in anyway. Having that extra content in-game for free won't do anything for you. It doesn't give you extra missions and it doesn't make you stronger. It simply "looks cool".

Other items such as additional slots are necessary to be sold through the C-Store. In order to give you these additional slots Cryptic needs more storage space, which costs money. You are essentially paying for a portion of that space.

I don't know what you're true problem with the C-Store is. Perhaps you want all those items and can't afford it. Maybe you want a 100% free Star Trek MMO. Whatever you're reason, that's your opinion and its fine. Just understand that the C-Store is a way to support this game even further, and I see nothing wrong with giving them a little extra support.
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# 5
08-16-2010, 11:52 AM
frankly, i wonder what people's problem with the C-Store is..

the general argument i see given is "that stuff should be covered by our monthly sub and should be free"

normally given by people who are willing to shell out the price of a full new game on an expansion to a game (which is also made at the same time using the money from the monthly subs)

yes, its a form of generating revenue, and i'd rather see content thats in the C-Store drip-feed into the game bit by bit over time in a way that allows you to chose what you want to have and what you dont than have it all lumped together in a package i HAVE to buy all of to get the bits i want a year after launch.

its the model the whole MMO industry is using now, and just as when expansions started happening not everyone is going to be happy about it.. i accept that, i just wish others would accept that not everyone hates it and move past it.
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# 6
08-16-2010, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Shingi
frankly, i wonder what people's problem with the C-Store is..

the general argument i see given is "that stuff should be covered by our monthly sub and should be free"

normally given by people who are willing to shell out the price of a full new game on an expansion to a game (which is also made at the same time using the money from the monthly subs)

yes, its a form of generating revenue, and i'd rather see content thats in the C-Store drip-feed into the game bit by bit over time in a way that allows you to chose what you want to have and what you dont than have it all lumped together in a package i HAVE to buy all of to get the bits i want a year after launch.

its the model the whole MMO industry is using now, and just as when expansions started happening not everyone is going to be happy about it.. i accept that, i just wish others would accept that not everyone hates it and move past it.
The only problem with that statement is that it assumes that Cryptic will never put out an ST:O expansion pack that we'll have to buy. They'll STILL have a retail expansion at some point... that we'll have to buy ON TOP of the C-Store revenues...
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# 7
08-16-2010, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shingi
frankly, i wonder what people's problem with the C-Store is..
I get tired of seeing things that i think should be part of my subscription going into the c-store.

I also am getting tired of seeing the price go up! Astronomically every time.

For example all the ships where 200 or so c-points. Fine. then the Enterprise Dreadnaught comes on the scene and its like 2000 POINTS! thats 10 times what the cost of the others was. I bet the excelsior and Nebula will be the same. 1500 or 2000 points each.

then they put things in there that are universal to all your characters so again your only buying it once. but wait! Now they have stuff that is per character! that means if you want it for each character guess what. bend over and forget the lubricant.

that again is a cost increase to us.

To me some of these things they put in the c-store should be part of my monthly subscription fee and should not be bartered to me on the side like some overcoated thug in a side ally in NYC pedalling watches.
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# 8
08-16-2010, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by attilio View Post
Other items such as additional slots are necessary to be sold through the C-Store. In order to give you these additional slots Cryptic needs more storage space, which costs money. You are essentially paying for a portion of that space.
Very few MMOs charge for additional character slots; in fact most MMOs that I have played start you with at least ten slots. Personally after I used up my free pre-order I have not purchased any other Cryptic points and have no intention to. F2P use an in-game store very few P2P use such a model. I guarantee Cryptic made enough money on Lifetime-subs to run this game for 5 years or more.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shingi
its the model the whole MMO industry is using now, and just as when expansions started happening not everyone is going to be happy about it.. i accept that, i just wish others would accept that not everyone hates it and move past it.
This is an overly general statement I would like to see proof that this is the model for the NA market(I understand that in Asia this is the model). None of the major MMO companies use such a model as extensive as STO.
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# 9
08-16-2010, 12:01 PM
I don't think the C-Store is the real problem. I think Cryptic is starting to look like it's "let's put everything to the C-Store". Like Attilo said, some things like slots (costume, character, or ship), I find understandable.

Outfits like that 21st Century off duty outfits when we already have so limited number to pick? REALLY? That was necessary for the C-Store? REALLY? But at least I won't buy such rubbish.
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# 10
08-16-2010, 12:07 PM
No problem here with the cstore. Havent bought anything from it in say a monthish. The people who have a problem are those that want the stuff thats in it for free. As for me I havent eaten in about a week.(700 bucks on text books this semester /cry) and I dont "need" anything they have up there. Nothing Is lacking from my char thats only avail in cstore (imo)

and to answer your question

I havent heard any talk in my fleet about OMG GOTTA GET CSTORE UNIFORM NOA so I dont think so.



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Originally Posted by Presbytier View Post
This is an overly general statement I would like to see proof that this is the model for the NA market(I understand that in Asia this is the model). None of the major MMO companies use such a model as extensive as STO.

Guild Wars. aka NCsoft> ArenaNet w.e Go look at thier "cstore".

Ive bought almost everything in it.

i cant recall if this truly is all but heres the link

http://www.guildwars.com/products/extras/default.php
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