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ok, so flying around esd today i noticed that the nebula was rebadged a sci vessel, now my hope is that they are just rying to throw people off cause it is a cruiser. i as a tac officer was actually looking forward to playing my favorite ship, and now that is possibly an impossability... i will not buy it if it is a sci vessel, and i will whine and cry like the sci's for equal right as far as an escort goes... thus the escorts would be the only peeps getting no love...

plz cryptic leave the nebula as a cruiser so we can "all" enjoy it. there is no reason a sci player cannot use a cruiser, they are just being stubborn...


the other problem this brings up with me is the lack of canonality with this move. the nebula was an explorer cruiser, it has the same armaments as a galaxy, and is just a bit smaller. three for and three aft weapons hardly would do it justice, and the fact that only sci peeps would benefit from it (being a multi role ship in canon) further makes me lose the star trek feel. i have been drooling for this ship since the game released and now i feel like because a couple of people complained, (though a far vaster majority wanted it to stay cruiser) u guys caved in. i have baught every cruiser you released, but i have baught no sci vessels, and i will continue to not purchase sci vessels (as i know most tacs and engineers feel the same way..). a vessel loses to much when it is a sci vessel for it to be apealing to tac and engineer.... if your gonna give the sci's something, develop a new ship that no one cares about... but be fair and make the cannon ships (unless otherwise slated like a defient being an escort, or the olympic being a sci for example) cruisers.

again i am disapointed that the devs decided to make it a cruiser, and then caved.... really lame for the rest of us... the disapointment makes me lose interest in the game....
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# 2
09-20-2010, 07:21 PM
While its nomenclature is a sci vessel, I wouldn't be surprised if it operated like a cruiser in action.

To be honest, I am glad they made it a sci vessel as it does make sense.
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# 3
09-26-2010, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AtomicFB
While its nomenclature is a sci vessel, I wouldn't be surprised if it operated like a cruiser in action.

To be honest, I am glad they made it a sci vessel as it does make sense.
I don't know, how is "Nebula" any more sciencey than "Galaxy"?
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# 4
08-15-2011, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Metallurgist
I don't know, how is "Nebula" any more sciencey than "Galaxy"?
I think the "pod" (can't think of a better name right now) on top of the ship can be switched out depending on whatever mission it is going to be undertaking. Weapons, sensors, some other specialty tool. Where to the best of my knowledge the Galx can't be. Not with out some serious overhaul and upgrades.
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# 5
08-15-2011, 02:15 PM
I think the idea is that while the Galaxy is designed to be a large and extremely powerful combat oriented cruiser, the Nebula is more adaptable with its replacable mission pod, and advanced systems like its high energy sensors. (Which O'Brien was able to use to beam through the Phoenix's shields, and Data likely used to foil Sela's attempt to penetrate the tachyon detection grid)

In other words, the ship is more suited for lighter, non combat missions like accompanying research teams, scouting and patrol missions, or serving as a supply ship. In other words, it is to the Galaxy what the Miranda was to the Constitution 100 years before.

Sure, the Miranda is a "Light Cruiser", but personally I've always said that it should be the Science Ship of the Tier 1 selection. The Oberth finally took that spot, but again, it's not a cruiser like the Constutition, it is a "Light Cruiser". So the Nebula is a sort of Cruiser/Science hybrid as well. And as mentioned, with the Universal Slot it can come extremely close to that.
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# 6
08-15-2011, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AtomicFB
While its nomenclature is a sci vessel, I wouldn't be surprised if it operated like a cruiser in action.

To be honest, I am glad they made it a sci vessel as it does make sense.
I think it'd have made more sense for the Galaxy and Nebula to both be Exploration cruiser costumes, since that's what they were.

That said, as far as Sci ships go it's still very cruisery, especially if you pop an engineer in the universal slot.
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# 7
09-20-2010, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Putnam
there is no reason a sci player cannot use a cruiser, they are just being stubborn...
There is no reason a tac or eng player cannot use a science vessel; you are just being stubborn...

I use science vessels on my tactical alt, and I have tons of fun with her.
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# 8
09-20-2010, 07:26 PM
the neluba is out already?
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# 9
09-20-2010, 07:29 PM
dude, ive tried it, missin two weapons slots is a big deal.... further more, the powers are all messed up, i actually enjoyed the challenge of playing a sci vessel as a tac, and no, i do not have a closed mind, as anyone in my fleet as i will try anything... but it is impractical, and made me go from being a strong dps, to a mediocre dps, and only then was it situational... to play as a tac in a sci ship, you have to be playing with a specific group of people to make it work... i for one just wanted to be able to enjoy the ship as apposed to being /meh, about it... its the sci guys who are close minded and whining and complaining about every ship that comes out cause its not a sci ship... i have yet to see a sci in a cruiser outside of my fleet, and it works very well in my fleet. i see more scis in escorts lately, but still they complain that they want more.... sci's can play in any ship and be decently dependable and practical, it is not backwards compatible however, tacs are very weak in sci ships... and im just saying how disapointed i was, as i had started planning on how i was gonna build it and started stock piling equipment for it, which is now a waste of badges and emblems... i wouldnt have been as disapointed or upset if they had come out from the get go and said it was gonna be a sci ship, but they screwed me over by changing it mid stride... they should put it back to a cruiser, and make a new ship for the scis and escorts...
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# 10
09-20-2010, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Putnam
... its the sci guys who are close minded and whining and complaining about every ship that comes out cause its not a sci ship...
And what was every ship that's come out again?

Doesn't seem very "close minded" that a Science Vessel captain might actually, you know, want a Science Vessel.

It does seem kind of close minded that you'd deny them one because of your personal desires when you could always pick up the Excelsior, Galaxy-X, Galaxy-R, Assault Cruiser or Star Cruiser is you want a Cruiser for your Tactical Officer, especially since the Excelsior would gel a lot better with that profession and definitely help your DPS a lot more with it's LtC Tactical Slot (and apparently according to you if "your not doing decent dps, than your not doing your job").

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Originally Posted by Putnam
except that as a tac your primary position is dps, and missing 2 weapons slots hurts alot... also, its tuffer to play with power settings
And being a Science Officer your primary position is buff/debuff, and missing all those Science Vessel BOff slots hurts a lot... also it's tougher to play with non-SV power settings.

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Originally Posted by Putnam
i dont understand why peeps get all upset that there is a ton of cruisers...
Says the guy getting upset that there won't be one more on the pile...and will "whine and cry" over it.
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