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# 1 Anyone Else Here Dislike DS9?
01-13-2011, 07:02 AM
I was never able to get into it. I just didnt think it was as good a series as TNG and Voyager. Maybe it was the fact it was set on a space station instead of a ship. I've just come across people that LOVE DS9 and I just don't feel it
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# 2
01-13-2011, 07:06 AM
Took me a while to like DS9, but once I got to know the characters it has become my favorite show. The main reason is that most of the episodes are very rewatchable without being boring.

Perhaps on your first time round you should watch just a few episodes of the first two seasons and concentrate on the later one which IMO were much better.
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# 3
01-13-2011, 07:08 AM
I like it....it adds a certain ambiance not seen anywhere else.....in a Shop Rite, Swap Meet kinda way.

That and Im very serious about my Dabo.........."the shops are open"......(<------guess where thats from fellow gamers?)
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# 4
01-13-2011, 07:20 AM
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.........."the shops are open"......(<------guess where thats from fellow gamers?)
Fable 2 perhaps?

I didn't like DS9 at first either, but that was just "it's not Picard" syndrome.
I had the same issue when TNG came out....."it's not Kirk"

Avery Brooks really grew on me though, Sisko came across as a jerk at first...but in comparison to some other captains in the canon........Sisko had the biggest steel clankers of them all.......Love him
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# 5
01-13-2011, 07:25 AM
DS9 is the most real Star Trek there is. The characters deal with issues that aren't so perfect and black and white. The characters have... character. There's huge interesting story arcs and it's not as episodic based (which you might notice is a dying breed because it sucks). It's got the BEST storytelling out of all of them.

TNG and TOS have stronger characters (not physical strength or anything). That's about all I can say there. There's no terribly strong characters in DS9. There's no Spock or Kirk or Data or Picard. However, the story arcs, the stories themselves and the more human nature to the whole thing makes up for it.


Plus Worf finally got good in DS9. In TNG for several seasons he was just a d00d that screamed a lot and got beat up a lot. TNG gave him good character.
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# 6
01-13-2011, 07:38 AM
ds9 is very different to other trek and i can understand why people might not 'get it' but its easily the best star trek to me and has all the things i like; tons of action action, lots of story arcs, interesting character, more realistic, lots of regular guest stars, political situation and ramifications that affect the entire star trek landscape.

the only thing i advise, as i cant make people like it is to stick with it. often people watch the first series or two and say they hate it or dislike it and expect the next 6 years to be the same. it starts getting awesome around the end of season 2 and never really stops. the dominion war stuff is beyond epic.

try the episode 'the way of the warrior' and if that does not make you like it then its just not your series.
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# 7
01-13-2011, 07:48 AM
I drudged through the first two seasons but when Avery Brooks was allowed to turn into Hawk, then it got to be a really good show. That and they made Cirroc Lofton's character not so whiney
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# 8
01-13-2011, 08:06 AM
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Plus Worf finally got good in DS9. In TNG for several seasons he was just a d00d that screamed a lot and got beat up a lot. TNG gave him good character.
yeah TNG Worf really did earn the nickname 'microbrain' "I shall shoot the viewscreen, thereby killing the bad guy!"

As for DS9 many of the eps in the first seasons are very slow, but they do have some amazing gems among them like 'Duet' and "The Wire'. Great character pieces involving Cardassians.

Even once it picks up in the action department most of my other favourites are one offs that don't really deal with the Dominion like 'The Visitor' "Hard Time' "Trials and Tribble-ations' "Empok Nor' "Time's Orphan' and 'The Sound of her Voice'.

Ferengi eps are always good for a laugh too. Armin Shimerman really made up for the appalling way Ferengi were portayed in TNG (To think they were building them up to be the big bad guys of TNG...)

As for the Dominion war itself, there's eps like 'improbable cause' and 'the die is cast' are great Garak pieces. 'Homefront' and 'Paradise Lost' are eps which people LOVE or HATE with no inbetween as it slaps Roddenberry's ideals right in the face with the silken glove of reality, in later seasons 'In the Pale Moonlight' follows up the slap with a knee to the groin and 'The Siege of AR-558' finishes it off with a headbutt.

Plus, the ep 'Battle Lines' has a monolgue about the futility of PvP without a death penalty. Gotta give them points for seeing far enough into our future to be able to say something on STO's basic gameplay mechanics. :p
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# 9
01-13-2011, 08:27 AM
DS9 showed us a side of Star Trek we'd never before seen. Before DS9, we had JOHNNY AMERICAN saving the UNIVERSE from ITSELF (fanfare), which I can't stand, in TOS, and the exact same thing updated for "the times" and "political correctness" in TNG. TOS and TNG were both good series. TNG remains my favorite Trek series to this day. But DS9... finally felt real.
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# 10
01-13-2011, 08:30 AM
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yeah TNG Worf really did earn the nickname 'microbrain' "I shall shoot the viewscreen, thereby killing the bad guy!"
His attitude got better as the series went on, although he never quite got over getting tossed around like a rag doll or have something dropped on him in that series. Considering how many times he was injured, and even taking into account Klingon durability, that spinal injury in "Ethics" really doesn't come as much of a surprise. He didn't quite shake it in DS9 later, but the writers at least gave him enough bad ass moments to offset that - not to mention the post-Generation films where he actually gets to beat or blow stuff up.

"Definately feeling aggressive tendencies sir!" indeed.

I will say that when I rewatch the DS9 series on DVD, I skip over the Mirror Universe episodes; once or twice was okay, but after that, it was just egregious. Fortunately, they don't have any relevance on stories in the "Prime" universe, so they can be ignored without issues.
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