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# 1 For all KA Pro players
01-30-2011, 04:18 PM
To all you "Pro" KA players...

GET WITH THE PROGRAM and help us who can't get through the damn mission.

I don't get it... You all say how easy it is yet when trying to get into a group one is asked if they are experianced players of it... WHAT THE HELL??? How are we supposed to be experianced if you wont help us get through it?

Youtube walk throughs are crap, "cryptic" (not the company) suggestions mean totally nothing to the inexperianced and no help from the community make this one of the hardest missions there are... Seriously... Open up, help those who can't get through with valid info... Tac. weaps and BO abbilities, Sci. Weaps. and Abilities and Eng. Weaps and abilities... Please... Give us something to go on.. No more on how to do the mission, I think we all know by now that a Tac. group goes to one gate and the others to the other gate, kill all the probes and spheres each time they spawn in and kill the gate one at a time. But what you all don't say or suggest is, what type of abbilities are best used to make it through this really very irritating mission.

I've been going at it since day one and I've nore have a few others I know EVER gotten past the first space battle part when the probes start coming in... And please don't tell my the "I'm nnot doing it right"... There is a special little secret about what abilities to have and use... Let us know what they are and OPEN up from us noobs who can't seem to get through it and invite them to your team that knows what to do and how, instead of making smug remarks about how easy it is and how you all can't understand why we have a problem with it.

My rant on the this mission and players who can't be bothered to help out.

Flame me... lol
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# 2
01-30-2011, 05:14 PM
Yeah dude, the elitism is bullcrap. Which is why reasonable people like Sir Stahl are working to bring a SANE version of STFs for people who aren't the best at STFs in this game.

We should just all magically get it!
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# 3
01-30-2011, 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elysia_1 View Post
To all you "Pro" KA players...

GET WITH THE PROGRAM and help us who can't get through the damn mission.

I don't get it... You all say how easy it is yet when trying to get into a group one is asked if they are experianced players of it... WHAT THE HELL??? How are we supposed to be experianced if you wont help us get through it?

Youtube walk throughs are crap, "cryptic" (not the company) suggestions mean totally nothing to the inexperianced and no help from the community make this one of the hardest missions there are... Seriously... Open up, help those who can't get through with valid info... Tac. weaps and BO abbilities, Sci. Weaps. and Abilities and Eng. Weaps and abilities... Please... Give us something to go on.. No more on how to do the mission, I think we all know by now that a Tac. group goes to one gate and the others to the other gate, kill all the probes and spheres each time they spawn in and kill the gate one at a time. But what you all don't say or suggest is, what type of abbilities are best used to make it through this really very irritating mission.

I've been going at it since day one and I've nore have a few others I know EVER gotten past the first space battle part when the probes start coming in... And please don't tell my the "I'm nnot doing it right"... There is a special little secret about what abilities to have and use... Let us know what they are and OPEN up from us noobs who can't seem to get through it and invite them to your team that knows what to do and how, instead of making smug remarks about how easy it is and how you all can't understand why we have a problem with it.

My rant on the this mission and players who can't be bothered to help out.

Flame me... lol
blame tthe people who dont think like you. The people who refuse to change their skills or blatantly lie about their setups. The people who cant read. These pro's you speak of have patience but it is not indefinite. One can only go so long before he starts saying "exp. Glf 2 more KA RA from start. Exp. required. Tac Preferred."

Oh and I usually ask for 1 MAIN reason. So I know who to tell what to do. Or would you prefer we not know if youre exp and just start then kick you when you do something wrong?
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# 4
01-30-2011, 07:19 PM
KA to me was impossible for a long time, however now with the help of my fleet and other contributing factors all 3 of my fed characters have completed it several times. There is no secret setup or grouping of powers/abilities that give you an EZ button for the mission. I changed nothing on any of my characters from previous failures of this mission, just focused on my objectives given to me, and now it is completable 90% of the time I go and do it. See the thing about this missions space battle is if you have one weak link the whole team fails, (Weak) referring to a player not paying attention, not specked into there class or ship right, or anything else that detracts from the objectives/missions given to that player.

You do feel a sense of absolute accomplishment when completing this mission the first couple of times, however it does fade, then it becomes routine. I would give anything to be in your position again (No Hope) Just to feel the euphoria of finally completing it again for the first time.
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# 5
01-30-2011, 08:24 PM
Because each player had a different setup in Captain / Bridge Officer Powers, Ship Weapons, Ship Consoles etc, so saying you want a Overview of what Abilities you should be using is a difficult.

What I have seen working well when we have done it in the past are listed below.

Tactical should be using skills that give High DPS damage to mobs in bursts Cannons etc

Science should be trying to stop the mobs from moving with Gravity Well, Debuffing and Stripping Shields etc

Engineers should be trying to hold the Mobs Agro and putting out continuous damage with as many of their Beams on target Use EPS Transfer.

Use Emergency Power to Weapons, Use a Weapons Battery if your Weapons power is low or you want to keep it high for a short duration. Do anything you can to keep your Weapons Power High.

Other Players may also also have some of these abilities like a Engineer with Target Shield Subsystems for example (like I do).

Communicate over Vent, do not try to do it on the chat window, quick communication is the best way to adjust to the game in real time.
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# 6
01-30-2011, 09:58 PM
I just beat cure today for the first time with a team who listened to one guy and got it done in about 2 hours and a half.

Sometimes. Maybe if lucky. if you ask around in Zone in Gamma, They will come and help. but yeah, Only if you're lucky. Im probably going to attempt KA tomorrow after a nice breakfast and an enema of iced tea. Some with my fleet. Hit me up in game. it will be my first time going through. Maybe you can teach ME something. My main character is in the link below.
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# 7
01-30-2011, 10:30 PM
here is box A and box B

in one of these boxes is FREE LEWTS

in the other box is DEADLY DEATH STUFF THAT WILL KILL YOU WHEN YOU TOUCH IT

so, which box would you like? or would you just care to beat the mission instead of asking for FREE LEWTS
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# 8
02-01-2011, 06:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elysia_1 View Post
But what you all don't say or suggest is, what type of abbilities are best used to make it through this really very irritating mission.
All info about KA you can find on the forum

http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...91#post2729391
In this thread there is a video posted, still my fastest KA first space part, and the build/weapons I used.
You can still use that build for Tac/fleet escort and do KA without problem.

Or use the builds that are posted in this topic:
http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...d.php?t=198781

Sci ships/cruisers with warp plasma and gravity well helps.

If you are a Tac officer, you can use the tactical initiative as stopwatch. When gate opens and spit out probes/spheres, hit your tactical initiative. Then when the timer of the tactical initiative almost hits zero, the gates will open again.

Target probes first, and then spheres, but I guess you know that already
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# 9
02-04-2011, 12:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elysia_1 View Post
To all you "Pro" KA players...

GET WITH THE PROGRAM and help us who can't get through the damn mission.

I don't get it... You all say how easy it is yet when trying to get into a group one is asked if they are experianced players of it... WHAT THE HELL??? How are we supposed to be experianced if you wont help us get through it?

Youtube walk throughs are crap, "cryptic" (not the company) suggestions mean totally nothing to the inexperianced and no help from the community make this one of the hardest missions there are... Seriously... Open up, help those who can't get through with valid info... Tac. weaps and BO abbilities, Sci. Weaps. and Abilities and Eng. Weaps and abilities... Please... Give us something to go on.. No more on how to do the mission, I think we all know by now that a Tac. group goes to one gate and the others to the other gate, kill all the probes and spheres each time they spawn in and kill the gate one at a time. But what you all don't say or suggest is, what type of abbilities are best used to make it through this really very irritating mission.

I've been going at it since day one and I've nore have a few others I know EVER gotten past the first space battle part when the probes start coming in... And please don't tell my the "I'm nnot doing it right"... There is a special little secret about what abilities to have and use... Let us know what they are and OPEN up from us noobs who can't seem to get through it and invite them to your team that knows what to do and how, instead of making smug remarks about how easy it is and how you all can't understand why we have a problem with it.

My rant on the this mission and players who can't be bothered to help out.

Flame me... lol
1) You aren't doing it right.
2) There is no "special secret"
3) One problem is if you think the YouTube walkthroughs are crap, you are already wasting the time of anyone attempting to help you.
4) You can go through this mess about elitism and no one wanting to help. It is not our responsibility to teach you how to play the game. It is not our fault you cannot , or will not, bother to read the kill-me-with-a-hammer metric frackton of posts, websites, and walkthroughs that not only explain how to do the mission but useful BO skills, weapon selection, and even power levels.
5) It is *not* easy and anyone who says it's easy is an arrogant fool. It becomes much more manageable once you've done it a few times. It becomes "easier" if you have someone who is experienced. The ugly truth is that KA can be wrecked by even one person who doesn't know what they are doing, and this is the reason why some people are reluctant to team with inexperienced players.

Here, I'll solve your problem for you.

1) Stop crying and wipe your nose.
2) Find a fleet who does KA runs
3) PM one of them, say you have no clue what you are doing but are willing to LISTEN and LEARN.
4) When they tell you do something in the mission , do it to the best of your ability. IF you don't understand how, ask.
5) When you complete the mission, go find someone else to help or type up what you learned here.

Me giving you a bunch of BO selections and weapons will NOT make you learn how to play them, how to time your DPS bursts, how to rotate heals with control, or how to deal with the space battle. If you can't deal with Infected -- cleanly -- you simply aren't ready for KA yet.
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# 10
02-06-2011, 10:45 AM
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GET WITH THE PROGRAM and help us who can't get through the damn mission.
WE .,...who can do this mission.... Should "get with the program" and help you? What a load of crap and "entitlement" thinking !! Why is it you feel I *owe* you in any respect that to help you figure this out ?

First and foremost - it is *you* who needs to get with the program -- Some of us have figured it out. You obviously haven't, and are not expecting it to be handed to you with little/no work. So, please tell me why you are "entitled" to mission completion or help?

Your first step in "getting with the program" is to ADMIT YOU HAVE AN ISSUE.

THEN - maybe some folks will be able/willing to assist you in learning what works.


Until then - I have little sympathy for you and your "entitlement"
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