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# 1 Question reguarding BOP Refit
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
I thought I read somewhere that the BOP refit had been nerfed beyond recognition, I am wondering what exactly was done to it? I really like the ship design over the regular bop so knowing what is broke or has been nerfed would help alot, thank you.
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# 2
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Zurganus
I thought I read somewhere that the BOP refit had been nerfed beyond recognition, I am wondering what exactly was done to it? I really like the ship design over the regular bop so knowing what is broke or has been nerfed would help alot, thank you.
The T5 B'rel has an issue with being made visible while cloaked from heals. So if someone slaps Hazard on you, it will make you visible for 15 seconds (without shields I may add). Also when you fire torpedoes it will take you out of cloak for 3 seconds without shields.

Also I was hoping Chang would quote Shakespeare like This anytime I used my torpedoes while cloaked
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# 3
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TrekTheStars
The T5 B'rel has an issue with being made visible while cloaked from heals. So if someone slaps Hazard on you, it will make you visible for 15 seconds (without shields I may add). Also when you fire torpedoes it will take you out of cloak for 3 seconds without shields.
Ouch, ok, was hoping it wasnt as bad as the person made it sound, I was wrong.
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# 4
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
As bad as it may sound, I still fly it and love it! It's fast and turns better than anything...even the other BoP. Pick a good BOff layout and have fun!

This is the only ship I will fly till I get my T5 D7...unless something truly Klingon and unique comes out first.
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# 5
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
I would probably use it if it had a normal battle cloak.
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# 6
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
I have fun with the ship, its really a great hit and run ship. turns on a dime. And has pretty good dps and speed. So get a good boff layout, and cause havoc. And dont stay around to long in pvp match in furball.
Just hit and run. Oh and you do not cloak when you drop mines.
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# 7
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Zurganus
Ouch, ok, was hoping it wasnt as bad as the person made it sound, I was wrong.
Depends on what you class as bad and how you want to use it to be fair.
I use mine just for the sole purpose of causing havoc and it works really well for that.

If you thought you could just sit there a HYT like crazy, then yea, it is bad for that, however...

Tac/Sci/Eng teams you remain cloaked, mines (with or without skills) you remain cloaked.

3 Seconds decloak skills, used properly can wreak havoc and you can survive, examples are;

Gravity Well,
Photonic Shock Wave,
Sensor Scramble ( though I'd be close so it hits quickly )
Viral Matrix ( same as scramble )

Or basicly any insta-work skills you only get the 3 second decloak, timed skills however you get the 3 seconds + duration of the skill.

You can also use it as a normal BoP with normal BoP loadouts and skills.

Personally, I go with the up close havoc style, with Aux 125, even Sci ships have problems seeing you as long as you do not try to go to fast (50% or less speed), Tricobalt torps are funny for pushing people about combo with shock wave.

Gravity well them in, shock wave them back out, and 1 person gets a tri up the backside to push them about a bit more. thinking of adding the tractor mines to then pin said person while I make my escape

So all in all, it depends on how you want to use it that will define how good/ bad it is
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# 8
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
hello guys ive heard there are bug issues with e battle cloak on the B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit
if u use the wrong ablity so when u do decloak u dont have any shields is there any truth to this rumor
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# 9
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnAcher
hello guys ive heard there are bug issues with e battle cloak on the B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit
if u use the wrong ablity so when u do decloak u dont have any shields is there any truth to this rumor
Yup if you use your abilties you decloak for a few.

What worse is your doing the klingon daily and your BO remind you to jam the communication you decloak.

You think with as little stuff on klingon side they be able to test thing. What a point of specail power the lets you do a few things while cloak when you declaok when bo on your ship tells you something.

Yeah i know there aware of it but the answer we get to it some day is not acectable in the sorry state it currently in. I level my klingon for this ship and found it nothing but frustations.

At least if they made this power a console we coudl remove it till the fix it. But know console are only for the federation side. Klingons get nothing but have test stuff that buggy.
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