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# 1 D Stahl Igged me
07-04-2011, 05:30 PM
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# 2
07-04-2011, 05:48 PM
usually i wouldnt defend or try to comment on that, but woah man.

i havnt seen it but i hear that Qo'Nos got a rehaul right? on tribble? and when the open pvp sectors are up and running i think that'll be great. and i have only leveled 1 klink, so i cant speak much on it.

klingons are a secondary storyline on star trek. like the romulans and vulcans, ect... star trek is the federations story. there is bound to be a content gap.

honestly if you feel that passionate i would apply for a job there, are you creating player created content for your faction? are the mishes good? if so id like to run thu them. i like playing my klingon.
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# 3
07-04-2011, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHorizon
usually i wouldnt defend or try to comment on that, but woah man.

i havnt seen it but i hear that Qo'Nos got a rehaul right? on tribble? and when the open pvp sectors are up and running i think that'll be great. and i have only leveled 1 klink, so i cant speak much on it.

klingons are a secondary storyline on star trek. like the romulans and vulcans, ect... star trek is the federations story. there is bound to be a content gap.

honestly if you feel that passionate i would apply for a job there, are you creating player created content for your faction? are the mishes good? if so id like to run thu them. i like playing my klingon.
Cryptic from Day -100 said the Klinks would be a Second and Equal Faction. Along the way they got too busy, too many other projects... what ever the internal reasons. Bottom line Klinks where not intended to be Second rate STO citizens... of course that is what has happened. Hey I vote Cryptic does away with silly ideas of Klingon Federation wars that have no place in Cannon after around 100 years of a continuing peace process I found it distasteful that CBC even let them get away with it. Its time for Cryptic to join the Fed and Klink Factions in game... allow us to share missions and join teams... and do all the other cool things allies do. Really what part of the game NEEDS a Klingon Vs Fed War.... the text at the start of a KvF PvP.... like it can't say Wargames as well. lol
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# 4
07-04-2011, 06:16 PM
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Cryptic from Day -100 said the Klinks would be a Second and Equal Faction. Along the way they got too busy, too many other projects... what ever the internal reasons. Bottom line Klinks where not intended to be Second rate STO citizens... of course that is what has happened. Hey I vote Cryptic does away with silly ideas of Klingon Federation wars that have no place in Cannon after around 100 years of a continuing peace process I found it distasteful that CBC even let them get away with it. Its time for Cryptic to join the Fed and Klink Factions in game... allow us to share missions and join teams... and do all the other cool things allies do. Really what part of the game NEEDS a Klingon Vs Fed War.... the text at the start of a KvF PvP.... like it can't say Wargames as well. lol
understood, did not know the klingon faction was sold as such. that is disheatening. ive only been playing just a year now and had not heard that. i love that part of trek, along with many other species. i just figured it would be about the same % as in the movies and shows and such, and expected about that.

hrm.

also id love cross faction teaming for mishes.
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# 5
07-04-2011, 06:29 PM
I've seen the new qonos but thats about all thats been done for the klingon faction recently and i liked it, but where is the new ships and varients? There is so much that has been forgotten in the klingon faction.

Also open space pvp is basically finding an enemy signal and seeing if here are player in those enemy signals not true open space pvp although current pvp is acceptable.

Then there was suppose to be resource battles and creating custome star bases which was basically nerf'ed.

Klingons just now have gotten access to sector blocks that federation players have had since beta, whats up with that.

All im saying is if this was suppose to be something of an equal footing why havent the R&D team been divided into teams to develop the game on equal footing as intended.
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# 6
07-04-2011, 06:43 PM
The Klingon vs Fed War was abit of a shock too me when I first started to play the game.

I mean I can see it happening.. Because the Feds and the Klingons have been at war twice before in the past as far as the Cannon of the show is concerned. So I was some what ok with it..

How ever there is a big part of me that felt it was already done.. We already have a GOOD enemy or Two we can use for a War type set up.. The Borg. And species 8472 aka The Undine. And so far they have been trying to make both enemies as universal threats to both the Klingon Empire and the Federation. So why even BOTHER go to war with each other when there's a much bigger threat?

And yet.. here we are.. It's the Federation vs the Klingon Empire.. And the Klingon Empire wasn't even portrayed properly from the word go in my opinion.

I mean first of all, The Klingon Empire are supposed to be Conquerors. Yet, they don't play like they are. They play like they are just angry feds who can use ships that can cloak. Really? Also there's supposed to be some kind of Internal struggle in the Klingon empire, one faction vs another... while there's a war with the Federation... So now the Klingon empire isn't even organized... And to top it off because the game is primally built to cater to the Federation and it's Player base, they get all of the new toys first, while the Klingon Empire will get what ever is left over. I should have seen that as the way things were going to be when, way back during the Open Beta, when they were releasing Pre-sign up toys, one of the toys that originally was state to be promised to both sides, the Joined Trill, took 3 months+ to be released to the Klingon side of the fence..

Then.. the TRUE killer to the PVP part, again in my opinion, and a ruining force to the Klingon Empire... Fed vs. Fed. I'll admit, I can understand the reasoning behind it. But I don't see why they didn't at least make it more worth it to actually do FvK. Like Half the rewards for FvF or KvK but better rewards for FvK.. But hey, both sides need to be in balance right? And since the Federation is the Larger side of the Game, they have to have better options, right?

This game could have had such a brighter future. So many things could have been better with this game so far. And yet here we are. Sure we have a good game so far. And we have updates coming.. But if the game continues on the path it's on right now, I don't know how well it will grow when the new monster sized games are released. Let's not get anything misunderstood.. I have a life time subscription for this game. So I don't plan to go anywhere. How ever, if things don't get better from here on out.. I doubt my play time in this game will be as good as it was a year ago.
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# 7
07-04-2011, 07:08 PM
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The Klingon vs Fed War was abit of a shock too me when I first started to play the game.

Then.. the TRUE killer to the PVP part, again in my opinion, and a ruining force to the Klingon Empire... Fed vs. Fed. I'll admit, I can understand the reasoning behind it. But I don't see why they didn't at least make it more worth it to actually do FvK. Like Half the rewards for FvF or KvK but better rewards for FvK.. But hey, both sides need to be in balance right? And since the Federation is the Larger side of the Game, they have to have better options, right?

This game could have had such a brighter future. So many things could have been better with this game so far. And yet here we are. Sure we have a good game so far. And we have updates coming.. But if the game continues on the path it's on right now, I don't know how well it will grow when the new monster sized games are released. Let's not get anything misunderstood.. I have a life time subscription for this game. So I don't plan to go anywhere. How ever, if things don't get better from here on out.. I doubt my play time in this game will be as good as it was a year ago.
word. but i will say that some of the best pvp's ive been in have been have been v klingons. FvF is just okay right now, still lots of stuff to tackle pvp period. but you know, as far as 5 guys that know their ships and can execute a gameplan? i still give the nod to some klingon premades....hey im pretty okay, but there have been times where i just dont know how to counter whats being thrown at me....not so in FvF...groups are easier to read/counter.

but if there is to be a WAR, it must be EVEN. nothing like a good ole even fight to test the piloting and command skills you know, and cheers to the klingon fleets seeking the same.

see you on the battlefield
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# 8
07-05-2011, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHorizon
klingons are a secondary storyline on star trek. like the romulans and vulcans, ect... star trek is the federations story. there is bound to be a content gap.
Really? If what you wrote is true, then what sense would have the all Star Trek universum. Come on, FED's needs antagonists. Without them Federation wouldn't be needed at all.

Permanent war between fractions FED / KDF / Romulans is what drives the storyline - not mention about PVP - "war is good for buisness".

As true fan of the Klingon faction, like many of my friends - I want more KDF content - new, good ships and locations. We also need Romulans - not in 10 years >>> NOW.
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# 9
07-05-2011, 07:31 AM
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Really? If what you wrote is true, then what sense would have the all Star Trek universum. Come on, FED's needs antagonists. Without them Federation wouldn't be needed at all.

Permanent war between fractions FED / KDF / Romulans is what drives the storyline - not mention about PVP - "war is good for buisness".

As true fan of the Klingon faction, like many of my friends - I want more KDF content - new, good ships and locations. We also need Romulans - not in 10 years >>> NOW.
yeah dude, but i did go on to say im way on your side with this one, and a huge fan of the klingon species and story....for pete sake ive even read a few novels....IKS Gorkon series, and another i think...and ive also been to 2 Klingon weddings....for Humans on Earth... (given they both had the same groom)

but i stand by my comment there, and you are right....they are one of the "bad guys" ONE of them.

i am proud to have my klingon trek fans be passionate about their faction, and that we have a Klingon side to play at all, hell i got a buddy who thinks if you aint Tal Shiar you aint crap, and he's griping about a Romulan Faction.... and another who lives as a damn Borg sometimes i think, he wants a Borg storyline so he can fly a Tactical Cube.

how big are we expecting this game to be tho? Another faction or two is definitely needed, but how long will that take? new content in this game leaks like a sieve, and we want it overflowing. ive been to a few conventions, there are fans of all species who i bet play this game all the time but dont pvp for a sec....and i bet they want more species and factions too.

also remember the peace times? cryptic could start and stop that stuff if they wanted to i think. remember in "all good things" or was it "times arrow" where picard was in a future where the Klingons took over Romulus and tensions were flaring again....nice. oh i think tthats the galX episode.

meh im rambling again, see you on the battlefield
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# 10
07-05-2011, 09:35 AM
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We also need Romulans - not in 10 years >>> NOW.
In the state of the game, coming up at least, I disagree with this statement. The game's PVP, and as a whole, would just divide the factions further, and make things worse, if Romulans were released as Player Faction this soon.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have Romulans, but right now is not the time for the Romulans to make their Appearance as a Player based Faction. Although it would be cute if STO released them on 12-21-2012..
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