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As a Klingon player, which of these two ships bothers you the most? A cloaking escort near identical but slightly superior to the Qin Raptor because of some turning/inertia mechanics, or a science hybrid escort capable of weilding the best Bird of Prey bridge officer layouts while not suffering from the Bird of Prey's lack of fire power or fragility.
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# 2
07-06-2011, 06:48 AM
Neither..

The Hegh'ta is still a better DPS ship than any of the Fed escorts.
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# 3
07-07-2011, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MelineAaele View Post
Neither..

The Hegh'ta is still a better DPS ship than any of the Fed escorts.
That's a funny joke!
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# 4
07-09-2011, 10:47 AM
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That's a funny joke!
Funny but true in a sense. The BoP is in a position to mix DPS with lots of science. Technically, it may be "less" DPS, but this lesser DPS is amplified by the other things a BoP can unleash, I can't think of another ship that can mount CPB-III, TB-III and PSW-III and still do an escort style alpha strike on top of this for example.
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# 5
07-09-2011, 06:09 PM
If you want to fly your BoP like an escort, MVAM is better. If you want to fly your BoP like a science ship, any science ship is better. If you want to fly your BoP like a healer, a cruiser is better. About the only thing the BoP truly excels at above any other ship is spreading warp plasma :p
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# 6
07-09-2011, 09:12 PM
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If you want to fly your BoP like an escort, MVAM is better. If you want to fly your BoP like a science ship, any science ship is better. If you want to fly your BoP like a healer, a cruiser is better. About the only thing the BoP truly excels at above any other ship is spreading warp plasma :p
Yeah that's all well and good, but I fly my BoP like a BoP. If I come up against an escort I can out science it. If I come up against a science ship I can out shoot it. If I come up against a cruiser it's got to come back from a science enhanced alpha strike and while tough to kill, has very limited potential for fighting back.
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# 7
07-06-2011, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jermbot View Post
As a Klingon player, which of these two ships bothers you the most? A cloaking escort near identical but slightly superior to the Qin Raptor because of some turning/inertia mechanics, or a science hybrid escort capable of weilding the best Bird of Prey bridge officer layouts while not suffering from the Bird of Prey's lack of fire power or fragility.
None of both.
I hate the Defaint cloak for story-reasons, but for gameplay... its hard enough to come arround with new ships concepts, beeing limited because the other faction has similar stuff just limits the progess of the game.

What I on the other hand would expect from Cryptic is some compensating; its all right adding that stuff but the fact that it makes fed-ships get simply generally better then ours sucks. A few tweaks... adding buffing the Raptor on some point, increasing the BoPs hull ect would be requiered IMO.
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# 8
07-06-2011, 09:37 AM
The raptor unless equiped with high engine and RCS modules can turn with most fed escorts and also makes it fragile. I would like either a turn axis change, maybe BC, or an all out turn buff. I would be in favor of the turn axis adjustment because it sucks default it turns better than a cruiser (somewhat) but worse then all fed escorts even the Fleet (that is the console layout it uses).
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# 9
07-06-2011, 01:29 PM
It's not so much the ships I face in combat that make me judge how lethal they are

It's the pilots' names above their ship names.

Superior this and inferior that... meh. I fly a BoP simply because I enjoy goofball setups that you can't use with any other ship. Is my ship superior? hardly. It's one of the worst setups ever dreamed of. And I'm one of the worst players in all of STO.

If I see names like Keg, or Hale, or Iceroid, or Reaper, it's not the ship they're currently flying that make me think "hey, I'd better kill this guy or else he'll kill me."
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# 10
07-07-2011, 03:52 AM
Bird of Prey's lack of firepower? Best BoF layout of a BoP? I must've missed those memos. I can't think of another ship that can decloak on top of somebody and do a PSW --> Alpha Strike --> Tricobalt combo. I've lost count of the ammount of escorts I've one-shotted like that. Sure an MVAE could try that, but you'd see it coming and buff up. And it's always good fun to hit one with Gravity Well III just as it seperates. Multi Vector becomes One Vector. "In".
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