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# 1 Breen set
07-23-2011, 05:10 AM
Has anyone given the Breen set a spin in any PvP environments?

My initial impressions of it were not very favourable, while it had some nice sounding perks, I never thought it worth using, or replaying the missions to get in the first place.

Since I'm levelling a new toon now though, I thought heck, I have to do the missions anyway, so I might as well get the gear.

The deflector, on the surface of it, sounds quite intriguing. It incorporates

+75 Flight speed resistance
+75 Flight friction resistance
+75 Turn rate resistance

Which, If I understand rightly, improves your protection from snares like GW or TB. I have however, as yet to experience a specced beam hit me, so cannot comment. As far as the PvE content goes however, I am finding that with the deflector equipped, I can in fact still move. Not at normal speed by any chance, but it is more like moving through molasses which is better than not moving at all. It also seems to help my escape from TBs using evasive.

The other stats are much of a muchness as far as the rest of the equipment goes, although the set powers also, seem intriguing.
+30% power transfer at MK XI which is like a free small EPS console.
-9 power drain to target, +9 power to you... well I wish it was higher, say 15, then it might be a worthwhile kit!
+30 transphasic projectiles. (free torp skill points woo!)

The usage of the set also allows you to use the rapid fire transphasic torps, which fire every 8s. Now normally I wouldn't even consider transphasics, but with the new found love for tac team and the almost permanent sliver of shields most people seem to always have, ruining my quantum strikes, perhaps the tradeoff is worthwhile, perhaps on a DEM oriented build.

Now I'm not going to advocate this over other sets, frankly it needs to do a lot more for me to swap out my Aegis sets, or be a consideration over the Borg set, but I do feel perhaps I judged it too harshly at first.
I think if the set powers were improved a little, maybe a survival passive also put in, we might actually have another set worth using!
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# 2
07-23-2011, 05:52 AM
I do not believe that you require the full set, or even any of the Breen items in order to use the Rapid Fire Transphasic Torpedoes.

The Engines are terrible if your an escort or plan to use an engine total power setting above 50..

The +30% power transfer rate is VERY nice in the hands of an Engi. And useful when not in the hands of an Engi.

The +30 to Transphasic Torps is useful. But Transphasics still don't do the kind of damage that Quantums or even Photon Torpedoes can deal. Not to mention they are cheaper in skill points.

Though your suggestion of perhaps for a DEM based build is interesting..
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# 3
07-23-2011, 06:02 AM
The thing about using the set is that you can use rapid fire every 8s. Without the set equipped the same torp fires only once every 15 s, so it makes a massive difference. Unless my set was bugged....

I don't think it will be better than Aegis on an escort, the defence boost is just too useful, and doesn't provide the tankiness a cruiser might like from the borg set, but perhaps, just perhaps, on a sci vessel....

Edit: Saying that however, being an escort that is close to immune to turn or speed resistance could be very useful. Again, I don't know how effective it is against speced beams though. If it didn't and they added say 50% immunity to holds/snares, then it could be an extremely useful thing.

Again, an added defensive skill or passive to the set would make it MUCH more appealing.
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# 4
07-23-2011, 07:25 AM
if/when trasphasics get a buff this set may be more usefull, or if everyone starts using polaron (isnt that part of the passives too, a def buff there)

i like resiliant shields but im moving towards regen for cruisers and sci ships, and actually specifically picking out a def dish that gets the most out of my sci abilities..in this case, def and def dish (Tachyon Def i think)

i also think you are correct about the engines, you can pivot when disabled ect...

i experimented witth a power level monger build. joined trill engineer in assault cruiser, those mkIV efficient engines (still viable at high levels, and i stick by that) add in that weak energy syphon, and put another one on in yer lt sci slot. i know its valuable, as thats the ideas real downfall.

rotating those energy syphons gets you a nice 40/60 sec small power buff, and if you are good with your epts and eptw it'll free up some room for engines and aux power levels. and yep, 2 copies of DEM and good ole phaser arrays.

good luck with your testing, see you on the battlefield
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# 5
07-23-2011, 07:32 AM
The Rapid Fire Transphasic Torpedoes are not considered part of the set. And at least as of 2-3 months ago I never saw any advantage to using them. I think they were broken.

And the Aegis set is better. Only thing is you can get the Breen set at any time from Lieutenant Commander onward while with the Aegis set you have to be an Admiral.
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# 6
07-23-2011, 08:35 AM
Once you have access to Aegis/Borg, I see no reason to even consider the Breen set.
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# 7
07-24-2011, 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artificialx
The thing about using the set is that you can use rapid fire every 8s. Without the set equipped the same torp fires only once every 15 s, so it makes a massive difference. Unless my set was bugged....

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transphasic torps normally have a 10sec cooldown, the rapid fire have an 8sec cooldown. they hit as hard as normal transpasics BUT they only have the acc and i think crit hit bonus (plus the time reduction) making them very rare (which also means they get the +15% damage bonus over common ones)

in my luna i use them, theyre great. i run the delfector and the shield to get the extra damage boost and power transfer, i also run a regular eps and use rapid fire with 2 turrets and a cannon..

the set isnt for everyone for sure, but its neat to have.
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# 8
07-24-2011, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by matteo716 View Post
transphasic torps normally have a 10sec cooldown, the rapid fire have an 8sec cooldown. they hit as hard as normal transpasics BUT they only have the acc and i think crit hit bonus (plus the time reduction) making them very rare (which also means they get the +15% damage bonus over common ones)

in my luna i use them, theyre great. i run the delfector and the shield to get the extra damage boost and power transfer, i also run a regular eps and use rapid fire with 2 turrets and a cannon..

the set isnt for everyone for sure, but its neat to have.
Wait, you mean people that actually know what they're doing use this set?
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# 9
07-24-2011, 11:04 PM
I generally only use the Breen set when leveling a new toon. Even then, I only use the deflector and engines, prefering on a covariant capx2. As soon as they reach RA I buy/craft them an Aegis set.
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