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Improved..

Hip Sway::
Looks great if you have an orion Female toon.
Look ok if you have a female toon in high heels and off duty clothing (fed)

Look wrong for any female toon in low heeled boots. The body just doesn't quite walk like that

Arm Swing::
The arms swing wide from the body.. away at an angle, with the hands dropping behind the butt of the toon on the back swing and then on the forward swing the arms swing forward and outward from the body.
Thsi just does not look correct on what are supposed to be serving military officers. Wanderout to the nearest real world miliraty instellation and watch how serving military females walk. Or look at the walk of female corporate executive types.

Its ok if an green orion woman or a Dabo girl walks like that. They're trying to attract attention after all! And it does work for Klingon females though I would tend to think Klingon females would tend to bend the arms more at the elbow and tuck thier arms in..a slightly more agressive walk.. They might tend to more stalky aggressive stance. Theyare Klingons after all.. the would should be proud, that of a hunteress utterly certain of them selves.

It still doesn't look right for Federation female officers.. A female federation officers walk should be more dignified.. Chin up, back strait.. Firm, certain. Not walking like an airhead floosy. Even the Sex in the City girls managed a more dignified walk. Not like a teenager trying to attract the school jock.

A second walk animation should be in. Something definatly tighter, and more dignified.
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# 2
08-11-2011, 11:34 AM
what you describe is the same walk as before. so doesnt sound like there are that many changes.

and so you know high heels dont make a woman wiggle. its the mechanic of her foot placement, leg, hip, and spine. woman who wiggle do so normally flat footed regardless of what shoe they wear.
please, no stereotyping.
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# 3
08-11-2011, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mongoson View Post
what you describe is the same walk as before. so doesnt sound like there are that many changes.

and so you know high heels dont make a woman wiggle. its the mechanic of her foot placement, leg, hip, and spine. woman who wiggle do so normally flat footed regardless of what shoe they wear.
please, no stereotyping.
That is to say it is intentional. The fact is NO woman does that without TRYING to do that. I like to be sexy but I promise you that Shinkuu is not trying to attract everyone she comes across. She would normally walk with a more slow, deliberate, stern gait that showed she meant business. It would be graceful but powerful. I have not seen ANYONE who swings their arms that wide. It looks like they have some sort of an issue with their elbows or drank a case of Monster.

Whenever I see that walk the first thing that POPS into my head is: I'm too sexy for this game!
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# 4
08-12-2011, 08:29 AM
Just revert back to the original Walk animation, I had nothing to complain about it. Nobody else did. Except for 1% of the people. Now it are probably 75% of the people. Did you guys have Role playing problems with the pre-season4 animation or something???

Yeez. problem solved. Too bad this took again hours of work for the developers to make it, to fix it, to fix it again. etc etc etc etc $$$$$$ if our precious money is spent on this kind of crap, thank you very much community.
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# 5
08-12-2011, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Marctraider View Post
Just revert back to the original Walk animation, I had nothing to complain about it. Nobody else did. Except for 1% of the people. Now it are probably 75% of the people. Did you guys have Role playing problems with the pre-season4 animation or something???

Yeez. problem solved. Too bad this took again hours of work for the developers to make it, to fix it, to fix it again. etc etc etc etc $$$$$$ if our precious money is spent on this kind of crap, thank you very much community.
I agree. There was NOTHING wrong with the way it used to look. It was just your every day average walk. What is so horrible about THAT? I mean if you want this Catwalk Strut to be in the game then attach it to the "Seductive" Stance. That would make perfect sense and be fine. In the future maybe we could have different gaits depending on what stance we are in but that is a project for later.
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# 6
08-14-2011, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinkuu_Akagan
I agree. There was NOTHING wrong with the way it used to look. It was just your every day average walk. What is so horrible about THAT? I mean if you want this Catwalk Strut to be in the game then attach it to the "Seductive" Stance. That would make perfect sense and be fine. In the future maybe we could have different gaits depending on what stance we are in but that is a project for later.
It would be neat to see more animation options for avatars beyond their default waiting stance. Maybe Cryptic could allow female avatars to pick between the normal and 'sexy' walks.
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# 7
08-11-2011, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mongoson View Post
what you describe is the same walk as before. so doesnt sound like there are that many changes.

and so you know high heels dont make a woman wiggle. its the mechanic of her foot placement, leg, hip, and spine. woman who wiggle do so normally flat footed regardless of what shoe they wear.
please, no stereotyping.
lol you are correct sir, when a womans booty wiggles it does in heels, tennis shoes, shoeless, its just how there made lol, also people say the walk doesnt look right havent you ever seen models walk on the cat walk, or if you want cannon look at how seven of nine walked
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# 8
08-12-2011, 12:18 AM
The hip sway for women is there, but on the toons in game it is still exagerated. The degree of hip sway you see on toons here is the type of hip sway that is learned. Again I point the dev's at serving military where women are encouraged to unlearn this type of walk.

Mongoson. The female "Walk" is as much of a cultural thing as a natural occourance of foot placement etc.

Even a male can get that sort of hip swing in thier walk. Your right that its a matter of foot placement. It is a learned behavior.. And it can be trained to make it look even better. (at least to men). US Armed forces also train in the opposit direction to de-emphisise it. I would imagine that Starfleet would do the same..
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# 9
08-12-2011, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Khemaraa_Iron_Hand_KBF View Post
The hip sway for women is there, but on the toons in game it is still exagerated. The degree of hip sway you see on toons here is the type of hip sway that is learned. Again I point the dev's at serving military where women are encouraged to unlearn this type of walk.

Mongoson. The female "Walk" is as much of a cultural thing as a natural occourance of foot placement etc.

Even a male can get that sort of hip swing in thier walk. Your right that its a matter of foot placement. It is a learned behavior.. And it can be trained to make it look even better. (at least to men). US Armed forces also train in the opposit direction to de-emphisise it. I would imagine that Starfleet would do the same..
Well anything and be unlearned but still doesnt have anything to do with most women are shaped different from men, yes i know that is shocking news but they are, there hips are wider and a few other differences, and to say a woman swaying her hips isnt natural is plain silly, to hint such, to me is insulting to women by saying this ur saying most women are just doing it to catch attention, and i think this is degrading of women, there is nothing wrong with the new walk, no need in makeing a moutain out of a molehill, and honestly how many people in gave actually even walk.
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# 10
08-12-2011, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMerzan
Well anything and be unlearned but still doesnt have anything to do with most women are shaped different from men, yes i know that is shocking news but they are, there hips are wider and a few other differences, and to say a woman swaying her hips isnt natural is plain silly, to hint such, to me is insulting to women by saying this ur saying most women are just doing it to catch attention, and i think this is degrading of women, there is nothing wrong with the new walk, no need in makeing a moutain out of a molehill, and honestly how many people in gave actually even walk.
Trust me... It is not natural to that degree. We do not sway our hips unless we learn to do that. Large ladies waddling does not count btw.

Also, their point is correct that men can easily swing their hips just as well as we can. I have seen a few who are very good at it. See the link in my post above as a nice example.

Fact is: If you WATCH your average lady we do not walk so exaggeratedly. We walk... Normal. We only walk like that if A) We are trying to get attention, B) Have been trained to walk that way, or C) Are experiencing some body malformation or some pain that makes us prone to walk oddly.
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