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# 1 U.S.S. Rhode Island Refit
08-19-2011, 11:57 AM
A refitted Nova Class starship, the Rhode Island's Photonic Displacer Module creates the perfect decoy. Check it out in this video and learn more in the C-Store.


Link to the news article.
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# 2
08-19-2011, 12:00 PM
No, thank you very much.
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# 3
08-19-2011, 12:05 PM
Piles and piles of negative feedback about the setup of this ship, and ZERO changes.

Disappointing.

This one is a pass. I won't pay to support the ship tiers moving in this direction.
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# 4 Rhode Island-gate
08-19-2011, 12:10 PM
I agree to vote no with my dollars, even though I will make Lt cmmdr on one of my characters by early tonight and this ship would be perfect for him. I hope we as customers can be allowed to communicate our discontent constructively with Cryptic on this matter.

I also hope that those of us who can see the faults of the Rhode Island will be allowed to educate our less aware commades without silencing.
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# 5
08-19-2011, 12:26 PM
I'll also be voting with my wallet on this one. So another definite no I'm afraid...

I absolutely endorse the idea of including consoles with new ships that can be moved to higher tier ships. This is good enough to make these lower tier ships tempting to buy IMO. However, I am unhappy with the idea of X.5 ships being sold in the C-store. [[edit]] While I do have faith in Cryptic that the ship will be made available for in game currency eventually, I do feel that this sets a dangerous precedent for the future. [[/edit]] Had this ship just been left as a T2 skin with console or fully upgraded to a T3 ship with console, I would have been happy to purchase it.

As it stands, I cannot in good conscience purchase it, which is a real shame as the console was rather fun to use during testing on Tribble.
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# 6
08-19-2011, 12:29 PM
Maybe if enough people *don't* buy this you can change it to a normal T2 ship, lower the price, and refund the people that do buy it the difference.
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# 7
08-19-2011, 12:11 PM
I'm fine with the ship being Tier 2, having a console, and costing 800 C-Points ($10 USD).

What I'm not fine with:
* No in-game method to obtain (sorry, this really needs to be available from Day 1 or else its a violation of the principle that no game-altering items are in C-Store)
* Unbalanced - console aside, it is better in three ways over the Tier 2 Science Vessel:
1) Has an additional engineering console
2) Has a 2nd lieutenant level science bridge officer (as opposed to default Tier 2's ensign level)
3) Has an impulse modifier of 0.20 instead of 0.15
What downsides does it have? None. Same hull, crew size, fore and aft weapons, tactical and science consoles, turn rate, inertia, and special abilities.

In other words -- this is the definition of a "pay-to-win" ship -- something you can only get by dishing out real cash and is the same or better in every regard. I'm really disappointed that after a 2 week delay based on tester feedback that this had none of the changes implemented.
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# 8
08-19-2011, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PhyrexianHero
I'm fine with the ship being Tier 2, having a console, and costing 800 C-Points ($10 USD).

What I'm not fine with:
* No in-game method to obtain (sorry, this really needs to be available from Day 1 or else its a violation of the principle that no game-altering items are in C-Store)
* Unbalanced - console aside, it is better in three ways over the Tier 2 Science Vessel:
1) Has an additional engineering console
2) Has a 2nd lieutenant level science bridge officer (as opposed to default Tier 2's ensign level)
3) Has an impulse modifier of 0.20 instead of 0.15
What downsides does it have? None. Same hull, crew size, fore and aft weapons, tactical and science consoles, turn rate, inertia, and special abilities.

In other words -- this is the definition of a "pay-to-win" ship -- something you can only get by dishing out real cash and is the same or better in every regard. I'm really disappointed that after a 2 week delay based on tester feedback that this had none of the changes implemented.
Agreed, furthermore there's a genuine threat of this ship setting an example for future C-store ships. Imagine a T5 C-store only ship with 2 Cmdr. BO slots. It's something that is fairly likely to happen if things like the Rhode Island are tolerated ladies and gentlemen, think about that.
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# 9 Agree - Bad precedent
08-28-2011, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Meynolt View Post
Agreed, furthermore there's a genuine threat of this ship setting an example for future C-store ships. Imagine a T5 C-store only ship with 2 Cmdr. BO slots. It's something that is fairly likely to happen if things like the Rhode Island are tolerated ladies and gentlemen, think about that.
I totally agree with this, as well as the general negative feedback. Although I am something of a C-Store nut; I am passing on this.

Cryptic, in my opinion, needs to seriously re-think this one.
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# 10
08-19-2011, 12:18 PM
Adding my voice to the chorus:

-no to "pay-to-win"
-no to "you'll be able to get this through in-game means.....someday"
-no to ignoring stacks of player input
-no to silencing respectful dissent in these forums. Agreeing with "the party line" should not be a prerequisite to sharing your opinion.
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