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# 1 All sci builds
09-27-2011, 07:40 PM
Simple, didn't we agree this was cheesy a while ago? The fleet I'm talking about knows exactly who they are. Vent conversations regarding the overpowered ability of torpedo spread then turning around, going against their word not to use it and....you guessed it. Using it. Mixed with 4-5 copies of charged particle burst 3, mines, scramble sensors, and photonic shockwave and you have quite literally the most, to coin a phrase "underserving of respect" team that has ever played. You have lost the respect of a good majority of the people in the PVP community and continue to do so without regard. You have lost players because of this, and do not seem to care. If this is the image you'd like to set forth for yourselves, then by all means, continue to use the only means by which you can win.

@BobTheYak: "There are five enemy players in that cloud of mines - can you find them?"
http://imageshack.us/f/269/sobmine.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/spamca.jpg/

Congrats...you win, the least respect!

Added another...same fleet
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# 2
09-27-2011, 07:42 PM
Let it be known that 2x torp spread and tractor beam repulsors only cleared about a third of that spam at most.
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# 3
09-27-2011, 07:46 PM
Just looking at that photo made my computer lag.
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# 4
09-27-2011, 07:58 PM
This is why we made OPVP Tournament Rules, because Zorena and I knew what kind of teams people would bring. Stupid setups like that make even horrible teams difficult to play against, as they take no skill and are so spammy (not just mines, but in heals, confusion, etc.).No one wants to stick to a league or a code of conduct with a good ruleset and choose the "I refuse to try to counter them so Ill just join them" approach, so I dont feel terribly bad for anyone.

What do you expect? Get a 5 man team setup and even without cheese it is easy to stomp them. While pugging youre going to be screwed. Thats all teams like this do, they queue up in 5 man teams with spam and stomp pugs. Idk what the point of it is or where the fun is, but they do it anyways. Then they play other premades and they get owned.
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# 5
09-28-2011, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Beagles View Post
What do you expect? Get a 5 man team setup and even without cheese it is easy to stomp them. While pugging youre going to be screwed. Thats all teams like this do, they queue up in 5 man teams with spam and stomp pugs. Idk what the point of it is or where the fun is, but they do it anyways. Then they play other premades and they get owned.
I've never understood that. There are several players that will intentionally go a little easy on PUGs (by looking for solo kills, playing alternative BOff and weapons configurations, and that sort of thing). I've been the 5th, PUG player on a partial pre-mades where they ask me specifically to give the opposing team time to spawn and organize.

But then again it's also pretty common to run against fleet teams of 5 science captains all spamming as many mines and NPCs as possible while they coordinate a SS chain against a full PUG. Then they wonder why the whole PUG team warps out. Most often I'm the last one left, wondering why I'm suddenly getting focus fired every time I spawn.

I don't get how that's fun.
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# 6
09-28-2011, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by inktomi19d View Post
But then again it's also pretty common to run against fleet teams of 5 science captains all spamming as many mines and NPCs as possible while they coordinate a SS chain against a full PUG. Then they wonder why the whole PUG team warps out. Most often I'm the last one left, wondering why I'm suddenly getting focus fired every time I spawn.

I don't get how that's fun.
Some people like picking on the smallest kid on the block and some just don't care about puggers beyond thinking of them as fodder: A small detour on the way to the next premade match.
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# 7
09-27-2011, 07:47 PM
I see 4. You can hide all that crap in the hud options, though you probably already know that.

The German fleets love the 5 man sci captains.
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# 8
09-27-2011, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Crimsonoa View Post
I see 4. You can hide all that crap in the hud options, though you probably already know that.
I can disable the health bars but not the text - which is the main problem. Any other text disable would also disable text for targets that I actually want to see.
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# 9
09-30-2011, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BobTheYak
I can disable the health bars but not the text - which is the main problem. Any other text disable would also disable text for targets that I actually want to see.
^this

Is actually a small portion of the issue which arise with spam, next to the OP Sci spam in the game ofcourse.
Cryptic's HUD/UI/Overlay system is pretty cheapass and lags your game even more. There are even topics about it, by me, by others; The lag is actually not affected by the rendering of the 3D objects and Polygons from the Holoships, Pets and Mines. Try using the keybind which totally disabled all HUD/UI/Overlays, even in massive Minespam areas your FPS will increase significantly.

Second problem, what Yak said, the options to disable specific Overlays on certain units arent extensive enough. You cannot decide to remove all overlays from mines but not other things like Pets or crap, we should be able to do this even more extensively. In addition, we should get Transparency options for Text and Reticles so that we can still have a clear visual on any object behind it.

Ofcourse this doesnt take a way the crap that brings spam with it. Chroniton mines which do not need full spec to get high 'slow' effects etcetera.
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# 10
09-27-2011, 07:53 PM
Tempted to use scramble, Wait I donít have scramble on any of my builds send in the repuslers.
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