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# 1 Power systems. What changed?
11-18-2011, 08:24 AM
There was the initial minor power level drops due to the new skill system. (A drop but not significant) After wasting 2 retrain tokens to get my skill points back into the same systems they were in prior to yesterdays patch I now find my power levels have dropped even further.

Is there a bug with power totals not calculating?

Stealth Nerfs to the set items?

More Nerfs to the consoles?

I don't understand why the power systems are being messed with so drastically.

Does anyone know what is going on with this?
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# 2
11-18-2011, 08:41 AM
Just about everything that modifies power levels from equipment seems to have been changed over to the new performance stats, which itself gives less per point, so you get much smaller power boosts out of them.
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# 3
11-18-2011, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hevach View Post
Just about everything that modifies power levels from equipment seems to have been changed over to the new performance stats, which itself gives less per point, so you get much smaller power boosts out of them.
Is this a change that was implemented yesterday?
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# 4
11-18-2011, 08:57 AM
No, it was a while back when the skill system revamp went in. It's most obvious on things like the Borg and Aegis items, some of which give less than 1 power now, but consoles give less than they did before, too.
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# 5
11-18-2011, 10:46 AM
Unfortunately power levels are the one thing that is immediately obvious with these skill point changes. I also think they are the most fragile....

I think being at half weapon power vs being down a few percentage points in damage output is much worse.

I also seems like weapons are using up more weapon power... its crazy... a combined Alpha strike of BOIII and CRFIII literally wipes my weapon power out... not half my power, almost all of it and I run it as close to 125 as I can.

I run two dual cannons
one Dual Beam and one Quantum
and three turrets in the back.


I've got two weapon power consoles... the assimilated borg console and the borg BO.. I used to have this thing stacked with power.... for shields and aux for hazard and TSS. I tried to keep as much as I could in engines to keep maneuverability up.
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# 6
11-18-2011, 10:47 AM
nOT SEEING ANY DRASTIC DROPS IN POWER.
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# 7
11-19-2011, 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hevach View Post
No, it was a while back when the skill system revamp went in. It's most obvious on things like the Borg and Aegis items, some of which give less than 1 power now, but consoles give less than they did before, too.
I have figured it out. You were right about the borg and aegis but it wasn't completely done before the Thursday patch. There was an additional nerf done on 11/17

With full power speccing on live using aegis
125/100 weapons
73/25 shields
53/25 engines
71/50 Aux

With full power speccing on F2P with aegis prior to the 11/17 patch
125/100 weapons
62/25 shields -11
53/25 engines
73/50 Aux +2

Current on F2P with same spec as above and aegis
125/100 weapons
59/25 shields -3
51/25 engines -2
74/50 Aux +1

So with these changes I have lost 14 points of shield power and 2 points of engine power while only gaining 3 points of Aux.

The first change was not an easy one to swallow but it keeps getting worse.

Nobody asked for these changes.
The changes aren't fixing a broken system.
Why is this happening

I would like to see an explanation from Cryptic as to the reason behind these changes.

without an explanation this is just a nerf for the sake of a nerf
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# 8
11-19-2011, 10:02 AM
my vote is nerf for the sake of nerf, and or just to **** people off.....because honestly it makes absolutely ZERO sense.
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# 9
11-18-2011, 08:41 AM
I'm noticing a power drop of my cruiser. Based on the skills I speced into, I should be seeing more than +10 on my weapon power (+5 for being a Cruiser, +5 from Borg Console). Unless the "Starship Warp Core Potential" is not giving a flat bonus like the description says.
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# 10
11-18-2011, 07:30 PM
there's a great saying that is VERY applicable here.......don't fix what aint broke.......there is absolutly ZERO reason to be changing many things that they are changing simply because they can. You want to revamp the skill system to, supposedly, make it more clear and get rid of specilization/choice....okay but this should in no way effect what we are able to do in game compared to what we had before. Unless there is some as yet undocumetned change that will be going on to bring power levels back in line with where we were at previously i am rather upset that they are giving us even less for our skill points and slots as far as power levels goes.

And i'm hoping the weapon power consumption is only a bug as if we are in fact burning through weapon power from 125 down to practically nothing then our dps is taking a HUGE nose dive. I got tired of playing until everything is finalized as i keep getting aggravated by the constant non required changes so until december i've removed myself from the irritant.
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