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# 1 Cryptic, please be kind
12-09-2011, 11:48 AM
Dear Cryptic Staff,
I know myself and many others have spent thousand of CP trying to get the ship with no luck. I know the ship is intended to be rare, but in fairness I think that after a certain amount of points have been spent on trying to attain the ship a bound version of the attack ship should be given to the account. Only one for an entire account seems fair and it is bound so it cannot be used for profit, but at least it would be possible to get the ship without going broke. The most expensive ship in the c-store is 2000cp, I would propose that after spending 3000-4000 points a player should be given the bound version I mentioned before. If a player wanted the ship for more than one character they could continue to try to obtain more and they would still not be as populous as other ships just for the fact that they are rare and only one character per account could attain it as a sure thing, but at a cost higher than even any c-store ships which can be used for every character on an account.

I hope you will take this into consideration, I am sure other players would agree that this is a fair compromise because I know one person said they spent 28,000 cp and have not received a ship.

-Vice Admiral Asar, Dedicated Lifetimer
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# 2
12-09-2011, 12:16 PM
I agree. How they set this up is pretty crappy. I think Cryptic just likes to **** off thei customers.
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# 3
12-09-2011, 02:48 PM
I hope Cryptic reads this letter and takes it to heart. Many players (including me) would pay far too much and has gotten nothing of value. I have now spend 18000c Points no ship and too many items they i and noone need like Pets.
"I get i 120c pet for 100c nice" " Oh i get 2nd ...ok" "oh Crap a horta again?"
It is sad that I no longer have a little pleasure now to invest in this game. I like the Game but after spend so many money and get nothing what i need (not only the ship) I think i will siting on my Lifetime and farm some 400c over some month to get c stuff.

If i had i wish free, (no i dont want the ship anymore) i want to give all my Gifts Items back and the 6 mill EC that i make with some items for the half of my money i spend in c points of the event...

I realy hope Cryptic finds a way to settle Down the angry Playerbase
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# 4
12-09-2011, 04:30 PM
Skimming through posts about winning a Jem'Haddar attack ship, I've noticed that responses have been overwhelmingly negative. I think alienating the bulk of active STO players for the sole purpose of generating immediate C-Store sales definitely undermines the game long term. Here's a hint: The bulk of the players do not care about getting xp-bonus tokens, tribbles, photonic officers, or anything else that was previously released. Many just want "The Ship." However, using a lottery based system to bait players into trying their luck is nothing short of profiteering at the player's expense.

Given that SW:TOR is just a few days away, I would bet real money that those on the fence regarding STO vs. SW:TOR are getting a very good push from Cryptic to try the latter title despite its pay-to-play model.
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# 5
12-09-2011, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shar487
Skimming through posts about winning a Jem'Haddar attack ship, I've noticed that responses have been overwhelmingly negative. I think alienating the bulk of active STO players for the sole purpose of generating immediate C-Store sales definitely undermines the game long term. Here's a hint: The bulk of the players do not care about getting xp-bonus tokens, tribbles, photonic officers, or anything else that was previously released. Many just want "The Ship." However, using a lottery based system to bait players into trying their luck is nothing short of profiteering at the player's expense.

Given that SW:TOR is just a few days away, I would bet real money that those on the fence regarding STO vs. SW:TOR are getting a very good push from Cryptic to try the latter title despite its pay-to-play model.
Well during the f2p testing Cryptic has already alienatet a good share of the playerbase.
Many familiar faces are gone already seeing the f2p changes on tribble alone.

Did Cryptic care?
Nope. Dillithium has been convertet with the crapy rate, the respec issue is still... an issue and just not been spoken off because of this sh*t coming up... lot of other things remain ignored.

And the lottery based system isnt just here... look at the STFs, the MK XII gear has the same crapy droprate and no other chance of getting it (like... well saving for it like for the other gear).
We... or well some you... probably not me... will see that more often soon.

Cryptic doesnt care about alienating the Fanbase, the opposite they seem hound out of the house on purpose.
And they will for sure not change THAT pollicy.... hell... people did spend multible HUNDRET dollars on that, I thing I read something about 400 $ here, this much money they would not make with a simple C-Store sale.
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# 6
12-09-2011, 08:27 PM
You guys hit the nail on the head.

It's all about profit. They are using this as a means to make people buy CP (Cryptic Points) and blow them on near useless items. Oh sure... you can get free pets and a decent boff, but they KNOW that people want the ship. They know it, and they know people will spend hundreds trying to get it. That's the whole point of a lottery. To get people to spend a lot of money on the CHANCE to win big. They company holding the lottery ALWAYS comes out ahead.

Now, I realize Cryptic has stated they do not intend to place this ship in the store. They want this as a "test" for how this new method for giving out items will work. In my opinion they KNEW how this would work. They knew they'd make a tidy little profit by doing this. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if after the holiday event they put the ship in the c-store, quoting that they're caving to all the players who didn't get the ship from the gift boxes.

They'll try to put a good spin on it, try to make us believe they're caving to us. Try to make all the angry people feel better about them, but they'll still charge 1200+ CP for the ship. That way, not only do they get all the money from the people who spend hundreds on the "lottery", but they also make money off all the "unlucky" people who didn't "win".

The sad things is that it'll work. They'll make more money off this "lottery" and selling of the ship afterwords then they've made from all of us paying subs over the past year. Then they'll use that as an excuse to do something similar every holiday of the year. THIS is what we have to look foreword to in STO. THIS is the way the game will be ran.

Personally, if they put this ship in the c-store for 2000, 3000, or even 4000 cp, I'd probably just cough up and buy it. I will not, however, spend real money on a pot luck chance to maybe get lucky. I'll stick with the ships I already have. Good luck to those of you who do play this "lottery."
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# 7 No No No
12-11-2011, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kherminu View Post
Dear Cryptic Staff,
I know myself and many others have spent thousand of CP trying to get the ship with no luck. I know the ship is intended to be rare, but in fairness I think that after a certain amount of points have been spent on trying to attain the ship a bound version of the attack ship should be given to the account. Only one for an entire account seems fair and it is bound so it cannot be used for profit, but at least it would be possible to get the ship without going broke. The most expensive ship in the c-store is 2000cp, I would propose that after spending 3000-4000 points a player should be given the bound version I mentioned before. If a player wanted the ship for more than one character they could continue to try to obtain more and they would still not be as populous as other ships just for the fact that they are rare and only one character per account could attain it as a sure thing, but at a cost higher than even any c-store ships which can be used for every character on an account.

I hope you will take this into consideration, I am sure other players would agree that this is a fair compromise because I know one person said they spent 28,000 cp and have not received a ship.

-Vice Admiral Asar, Dedicated Lifetimer
No No No

Your basically asking them to put the ship up for sale but the player gets lots of other freebies while buying it and doing so in installements.

Just that idea could be very bad news for them. What happens if a player runs out of money before making their final purchase?

What happens if a player fails to make the final purchase before the 1st of January?

What upset would it cause when a player wants to obtain the ship FREE like we can now but people like you have convinced Cryptic to change it thus upsetting players like myself still hoping to get a true holiday gift for nothing?

What do players do once they have the ship, do they get to give it as a gift which is the whole point of the gift item or is it treated just like any c-store ship unlock?

Who deals with the new complaint of having to "pay" for the ship for far more than other ships? That would happen, players like you are never happy and are self centered.

Do you consider any of these issues and what a headache they could cause? Where right now we have a simple c-store seasonal package, it is optional and you buy a gift not a ship.

I bet Cryptic never to let players like yourself get your own way because you would spoil the fun. The fun is the fact the ship is super rare, the fun is the possibility of getting a present/gift worth a lot and getting it free like gifts should be.

Shame on you people for trying to obtain everything and get your hands on everything. Want want want greed greed greed, go listen to Band Aid 2010.
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# 8
12-11-2011, 04:59 PM
So, Zypher, I have two questions for you.

One, how many boxes did it take you to get the ship?

Secondly, if you get a second ship will you "gift" it to me for free in the spirit of gift-giving?

Yeah, didn't think so.
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# 9
12-11-2011, 10:53 PM
Ah zypher my friend. I see u still posting useless comments and give a sh. On Players they don't get One.
Im a realist, i know cryptic will Never give us the Ship easy after they make it ultrasuperexoticrare. And i don't want it anymore. I only want something like a present for the Mega waste of Money for getting trash that noone wanted to buy in the store.
A nice idea is to make a trader on Christmas that give u something usefull for the crap of the Giftboxes. What i do with 50 pets?? Sell? Good joke they Not the time worth to sell in the exchange.
And if u say there is a trader in winterwonderland... I speaking of something usefull not totaly crap Boots.
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# 10
01-08-2012, 02:09 PM
I spent way WAY too much trying to get that ship to no avail. it really WAS a terrible way to go about it, but frankly they knew it would turn out this way. To make matters worse they actually probably just sat back and laughed as the money rolled in and even went on a podcast saying "thanks to all those CRAZY people" in reguards to those who spent way too much.
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