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Im an engineering officer and my ships of choice are crusiers. Untill recently, i have been very satisfied with them. The cheyene variant eqiped with pulse weapons is an absolute pile driver - my ol' favorite USS Genocidal.

Hovever as i progressed to captain i got my hands on the galaxy class cruiser. Unfortunately this one is absolute rubbish! 3 galaxy class starships have been overpowered by a single klingon in ker'rat.

So my question is - is it even worth to keep pursuing the "career" in cruisers? Are the Sovereign and Avenger variatns eqally as "tank-not-tank" bad?

I should have gone to science from the beginning. So far in every mmo i've been i've allways been the "wizard" like character with the flashy lightshows but I just couldn't resist the big daddy cruisers...
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# 2
12-29-2011, 07:15 AM
First let me say, you could be a science officer flying cruisers. Nothing in the game prevents that and there really isn't any disadvantage. So if you still want to be a science officer flying cruisers you can do it.

Looking at stats, the higher tier ships are better than lower tier ships. I'm guessing that the reason you are having trouble in the Galaxy is due to your equipment. I might be wrong on this, but its highly possible.If you want to use Cruiser then by all means do so. There is nothing wrong with them and many people use them successfully.

Hope this helps.
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# 3
12-29-2011, 07:27 AM
No, sorry, not really, my equipment is all purple mark VII!I
Im asking wether is it a fault in the galaxy itself, because 3 of us couldn't kill a single klingon!
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# 4
12-29-2011, 09:09 AM
Was this your first time in Kerrat? Kerrat is a PVP zone, so you are playing against real players. And they can be up to 9 levels higher than you (if you are Captain 1, and they are Captain 10). A regular PVE set up on your ship is not going to cut it in PVP.
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# 5
12-29-2011, 09:18 AM
I wouldn't blame it on the Galaxy. The ship's only real disadvantage is that it creates new definitions of slow - they are the slowest ships in Starfleet, but there's ways to deal with that by setting them up for broadside combat.

Ker'rat is PVP, and as somebody who's gotten manhandled just as badly in PVP many times, having awesome gear doesn't help if you're up against somebody with a lot more experience. Even if you generally do fairly well.

There's also a very infamous shield exploit that I believe is still on live servers, they had it fixed internally at long last, but that was just a couple days before their holiday break and there wasn't a patch last week. So it's also possible he had a second set of shield facings he could redirect from.
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# 6
12-29-2011, 09:40 AM
Im afraid you still don't understand: 3 galaxy's vs. 1 klingon, the klingon won! Now either the galaxy is broke or klingon gameplay is broke!

And no, it wasn't my first time. I go there on regular basis to suplement my dilithium supply... Now, im curious: How are you supposed to equip a galaxy for PvP? It turns like a pig and the klingon just blanks you on a single shield without a problem. Science team, eps power taps, and emergency power to shields are just temporary measures.

I honestly can say that my old customized performs better all around, i just updated my gear and it was all fine!
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# 7
12-29-2011, 10:00 AM
Hold onto something, cause this might hurt your ego but. . .

have you considered the fact that the klingon just MIGHT have been a better player then all three of you?
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# 8
12-31-2011, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by hevach View Post
I wouldn't blame it on the Galaxy. The ship's only real disadvantage is that it creates new definitions of slow - they are the slowest ships in Starfleet, but there's ways to deal with that by setting them up for broadside combat.

Ker'rat is PVP, and as somebody who's gotten manhandled just as badly in PVP many times, having awesome gear doesn't help if you're up against somebody with a lot more experience. Even if you generally do fairly well.

There's also a very infamous shield exploit that I believe is still on live servers, they had it fixed internally at long last, but that was just a couple days before their holiday break and there wasn't a patch last week. So it's also possible he had a second set of shield facings he could redirect from.
Wait, shield exploit? Please explain. Klingons are generally overpowered vs Fed. If there is at least one carrier in PvP combat, your already screwed most of the time. A while ago, I was in Ker'rat, and a Klingon warped in, it was me in an escort, two cruisers, and a science ship vs this cruiser class Klingon. The Klingon killed us all over and over again. We had only got its shields down to 40% when it warped out after 10 mins.
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# 9
12-31-2011, 07:37 AM
Ok, i got an avenger class now (not competely avenger, a bit customized) with a full onset of tetryon turrets in the back and tetryon cannons in the front with a single tetryon beam. There are also front and rear quantum torpedo turrets so im loaded for a serious fight! I actually managed "nab" one klink this time.

The matter with klingons is not as much as them being overpowered, its more like their chickeneze cloak and dagger tactics. If a ship is equipped properly for a PvP it would be a fair fight if the cowards wouldn't run at the first sign of trouble.

That's just broke becuase the klingons should be dying with honour!

Maybe Cryptic should extend their cloak cycle length like they did in FleetOps.
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# 10
12-31-2011, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sinsofasolarempire
Wait, shield exploit? Please explain. Klingons are generally overpowered vs Fed. If there is at least one carrier in PvP combat, your already screwed most of the time. A while ago, I was in Ker'rat, and a Klingon warped in, it was me in an escort, two cruisers, and a science ship vs this cruiser class Klingon. The Klingon killed us all over and over again. We had only got its shields down to 40% when it warped out after 10 mins.
The shield exploit is a bug. I won't describe how it works in case the fix hasn't made it to Holodeck yet. But in essence, the exploit gives a pool of shield power that was many times the capacity of the equipped shield. So working things the right way, the exploiters had shield healing capacity in hugely excess to what their true capabilities are.

And from your description that is exactly what happened to you. The Klingon was cheating. You could not have beaten him without a lot more DPS against him. Don't feel that your ship was weak or you have a bad build. HE CHEATED.
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