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2,800 ships is a lot. That is a lot of ships. But they are now outdated by over 30 years. We won the last war, and our technology has improved by so much, it seems like we should be able to beat them. Not easily, but it shouldn't be hard. Now, 2,800 ships is a lot no matter how old they are, but if the Federation, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, and everybody else join forces, perhaps we could win without loosing to much.

What do you guys think?
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# 2
02-08-2012, 08:23 PM
Who's to say they have not been upgraded over time as well?
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# 3
02-08-2012, 09:02 PM
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Who's to say they have not been upgraded over time as well?
They've been in limbo. Based on other things that went into the wormhole and came back at a later date (like that Bajoran poet or the USS Rapier), they may or may not have been aware of the passage of time, but they should not have directly experienced it in a physical sense.


40 years ago, though, the Dominion wrecked everybody in the quadrant. They trashed Warbirds and manhandled Galaxy class ships all over the place, and the Negh'var only escaped by plot armor because there was only one of them shown and it carried a major character.

Consider their position now: Player ships, even classes that themselves are Dominion War relics, are substantially superior to Jem'hadar ships. We've already been fighting relics. Their designs may have shifted, but their technology appears to have stagnated.

We've caught up to and surpassed them, but this is still 2800 ships, attacking a peaceful conference between two by this point almost comically war torn powers, both facing a full scale Borg invasion while still counting the dead from multiple major and numerous minor conflicts.

They'll stand a chance if for no other reason than the entire quadrant neither expecting them nor being in any shape to deal with them.
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# 4
02-08-2012, 09:04 PM
We have future Defiants with cloak, quad canons, and after this last patch AMS and God-only-knows what.

Nobody could stand against THAT.
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# 5
02-08-2012, 09:12 PM
2800 ships is nothing. I'm sure most STO players have blown up more ships than that single handedly, especially those that were around at launch. :p
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02-08-2012, 10:37 PM
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2800 ships is nothing. I'm sure most STO players have blown up more ships than that single handedly, especially those that were around at launch. :p
This

And this makes those story plots where the enemy is oh so strong that we don't stand a chance so laughable, since we will in the end trash the entire 2800 ships alone. Repeatedly.
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# 7
02-08-2012, 09:20 PM
I hope they do have a chance, but at the same time I hope they don't. Really from a wholly narrative point of view. We still have a few things hanging out in the open that still need to be resolved before we open up another major plotline that may also sit unresolved. The Undine from several missions (and Terradome) and the Iconians from the Romulan FE stick out most in my mind. I personally want some resolution to some of this stuff before we start dredging up more plotlines so as to shove content in. It makes the universe feel a bit too crowded with things like that, which are potentially very dangerous, just linger.

Don't get me wrong, I'm ecstatic that there's this line of continuity we're getting from DS9. Absolutely ecstatic! Just really feels that from a narrative standpoint, there's far too much going on at once.
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# 8
02-08-2012, 09:34 PM
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I hope they do have a chance, but at the same time I hope they don't. Really from a wholly narrative point of view. We still have a few things hanging out in the open that still need to be resolved before we open up another major plotline that may also sit unresolved. The Undine from several missions (and Terradome) and the Iconians from the Romulan FE stick out most in my mind. I personally want some resolution to some of this stuff before we start dredging up more plotlines so as to shove content in. It makes the universe feel a bit too crowded with things like that, which are potentially very dangerous, just linger.

Don't get me wrong, I'm ecstatic that there's this line of continuity we're getting from DS9. Absolutely ecstatic! Just really feels that from a narrative standpoint, there's far too much going on at once.
There are ways it could be folded in. For instance, the Dominion could disavow the 2800 and send us means to fend them off... and they could pledge loyalty to the Iconians.
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# 9
02-08-2012, 10:15 PM
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We have future Defiants with cloak, quad canons, and after this last patch AMS and God-only-knows what.

Nobody could stand against THAT.
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# 10
02-08-2012, 09:13 PM
As a primarily KDF character all I can say is...

Its going to be GLORIOUS!

There are many foes, thier ships are technologicly 3 decades out of date.. thier warriors are unaware of what may or may not have changed. They are going to appear at DS9 which is the base for the Omega task force, THE most tecnologically advanced ships in the alpha quadrant commanded and crewed by the elite f the Federation and the Klingon Empire.

I think they are in for a serious shock.

I'm picturing how my stature will appear in the hall of hero's just thinking about it... I may be the first Orion to ever be honored with a statue there to inspire the warriors of the empire.

They can either lend a hand against the Borg, or they can leave, or they can fight, and they will die...

I'm really hoping they chose the latter *grin*
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