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# 1 STO needs a Major Vilian
02-26-2012, 06:26 AM
Throughout the game there are minor villains like B'Vat, and Harkeev and a couple of other who appear in a couple of episodes but we seem to be sorely lacking a major recurring villain.

Now I know a lot of the big trek villains only ever appeared in a handful of missions but they would often hang around for years. All our villains seem to be dead within a 5 episode arc that take place one after the other. You cant build up decent villians if they all get killed too soon.

Now that we have voice over and cut scenes these characters can play a more prominent role in the story, so please can we start fleshing them out and giving our captains some real challenges?
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# 2
02-26-2012, 06:28 AM
Right now, it's the Borg, isn't it? I got the feeling that Empress Donatra would play the part of the main baddie for the Borg, like the Borg Queen did in First Contact.

I think I read that the Iconians are supposed to play the big villain in the future.
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# 3
02-26-2012, 06:31 AM
Well, we may have breezed through the missions involving them, but Hakeev and B'Vat were fairly major villains. We also had James O'Brien from the mirror universe missions.
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# 4
02-26-2012, 06:38 AM
The Iconians are meant to be the major villain, but Cryptic cbf doing anything with the story in this game.
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# 5
02-26-2012, 06:43 AM
You mean the Borg, True Way, Hirogen, Dominion, Klingon, Undine, Iconian, Reman, Romulan, Mirror Universe (which were defeated but now they are back somehow)... *loses breathe*
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# 6
02-26-2012, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenor-Nyiad View Post
You mean the Borg, True Way, Hirogen, Dominion, Klingon, Undine, Iconian, Reman, Romulan... *loses breathe*
no thats not what i mean.

those races were part of the shows as well. im talking about the actual characters that provide the emotional confrontations with the captains. seska, dukat, weyoun, etc.
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# 7
02-26-2012, 06:52 AM
At first we would need some real storytelling within the missions adding much more depth. Then you can start to build up real Villains.

But I really don't see that happen with 1 year of time for FEs of 15 min length.
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# 8
02-26-2012, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Schneemann View Post
At first we would need some real storytelling within the missions adding much more depth. Then you can start to build up real Villains.
I honestly doubt most players even read the text while playing. They simply fast-click through the text screens to get to the combat.
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# 9
02-26-2012, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Lukas2409
The Iconians are meant to be the major villain, but Cryptic cbf doing anything with the story in this game.
I disagree that cryptic are procrastinating. There's such a thing as "The Long Game"; the building up of a good villain to last the entire run of a story until the inevitable confrontation at the end.

What happens if the next featured series involved the Iconians, lasted for the 5 standard episodes and then BAM, story's over. Nothing left to tell. Borg are a great big bad to cut our teeth on, so are the Undine and now the Dominion. They're the intermediate villains we have to plow through while we unravel the mystery of the villain behind the villains.

Right now, none of the stock enemies we know and love to blow up seem like a credible threat to me. Borg? They're just something to keep my phaser arrays hot while I work on imporoving my ship builds and combat tactics. Undine? They're just Borg without the shield drain and enormous ships. Dominion? Romulans? Breen? Klingons? They're nothing compared to what's waiting.

The motto of every good storyteller is "Always leave them wanting more". By that measure, Cryptic are doing a good job so far.
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# 10
02-26-2012, 06:44 AM
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Well, we may have breezed through the missions involving them, but Hakeev and B'Vat were fairly major villains. We also had James O'Brien from the mirror universe missions.
you are right, they may be major but they are getting killed off too quickly. thats the point. where is the growing feud between our captains and the villain? where is the desire for them to seek revenge or to raise the odds for foiling their evil plans in the first place.

its like having dukat killed off in season 2, or the female changeling in season 4, or khan in space seed. they are still major characters for what they tried to do but they need to stick around for the their characters to build up. How much better would it be to have another episode focusing on the klingons and dealing with a character we already know and hate (in a good way) than have a brand new character that we have never seen before and have emotional connection to at all.
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