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# 1 100% acc FAW vs B'rel
03-21-2012, 05:46 AM
What am I supposed to do???
I can't play pvp anymore thanks to all those alpha buffed FAW III. But yeha killing people without realizing it is probably another feature
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# 2
03-21-2012, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Warpstalker
What am I supposed to do???
I can't play pvp anymore thanks to all those alpha buffed FAW III. But yeha killing people without realizing it is probably another feature
Noob question alert!

Does FAW target cloaked vessels then?
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# 3
03-21-2012, 05:54 AM
From what I can tell nobody has been able to provide reproduction steps for FAW hitting cloaked ships under controlled circumstances.

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.

But the truth is: If Klingons hadn't started the pet spam and boosted it with p2w deployables, the feds would not have had to go back to FAW to fight it.
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# 4
03-21-2012, 05:59 AM
What came first the pets or the faw?
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# 5
03-21-2012, 06:04 AM
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What came first the pets or the faw?
FAW... as far as I can remember you couldn't test carriers in Closed Beta.
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# 6
03-21-2012, 06:14 AM
It's not about being hit through cloak, it's about a 6.5k shields and 27k hull ship based on evasion and weapon arcs which is hit by unavoidable death star beams...

You cant stay in battle for more than 5 seconds because a single hit from a faw adept escort with no target selected will vanish one of your facing shields entirely.

EDIT : Ah and battle cloak adds 50% def, of course it doesn't work against FAW ^^^
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# 7
03-21-2012, 06:19 AM
Unless they can change the mechanics of Bfaw to not originate from the target first, then the issue will most likely remain. Evidently the Devs can not make Bfaws AoE work like CSV or TSV.
Nor does it seem can they code the ability to ignore Cloaked targets in regards to point of origin when the power is activated.
Otherwise you may need to revisit your build for ideas on how to buff your resists for both shields and Hull.
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# 8
03-21-2012, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Warpstalker
It's not about being hit through cloak, it's about a 6.5k shields and 27k hull ship based on evasion and weapon arcs which is hit by unavoidable death star beams...

You cant stay in battle for more than 5 seconds because a single hit from a faw adept escort with no target selected will vanish one of your facing shields entirely.

EDIT : Ah and battle cloak adds 50% def, of course it doesn't work against FAW ^^^
This is pretty much how it goes down. It's just a matter of having FAW up whenever possible. And the most aggravating aspect of it is that they don't even need to know you're there.

And to say that the use of FAW is due to pet spam is a joke. You work that one out yourself.

And you can have twice the above number in shields except when your coming out of cloak you have....oh that's right. None. And defense counts for nothing so we're looking at just hull resists. In short any BOP decloaking into active FAW is going to take a beating.

TIP: Don't decloak into active FAW spam. Seriously that's all there is to it. You're in cloak to evaluate your targets and the battle situation. If you don't take a minute to see what abilities your opponents are running that's gonna go down as a failure on your part.
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# 9
03-21-2012, 06:03 AM
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# 10
03-21-2012, 06:07 AM
Actually spam came via the mines that the feddies used to crank out way back when in PvP, then the Carrier and its pets came along later. The feds starting the concept, the KDF just does it better thanks to Dev designs.
I believe Bfaw has always been here and has just gone through a series of buffs, nerfs, buffs again and the like to try and make it better at killing spam.

BFAW will target a cloaked vessel and hit it upon its intital use if the cloaked vessel is in combat range, but after that intial effects if the cloaked vessel stays cloaked or goes back into cloak after under fire the Bfaw will eventually start missing and lose said target. Hence BFaw is excellent for discovering cloaked vessels if blindly fired occassionally, but it will not keep them discovered, and it is unverified that it allows the firing party to see you.
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