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# 1 Orion Slavers?
05-06-2012, 06:00 PM
The Orion Slaver fighters seem to strip shields with terrifying speed which makes then a pretty nice ship to use but they state that they steal EC, Mats, and Contraband sometimes. However, I have not noticed them doing this against the Borg, the True Way, or other Players. So I am curious... Do they not really do this? Is there some special thing that must be done to get them to do this? Do they steal stuff but not give it to me?
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# 2
05-06-2012, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinkuu_Akagan
Do they steal stuff but not give it to me?
60-40 split was the deal we made! now pay up punks!

In all seriousness though, i've heard a great many KDF player ranting about this, so you're certain not the only one.
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# 3
05-06-2012, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by centersolace
60-40 split was the deal we made! now pay up punks!

In all seriousness though, i've heard a great many KDF player ranting about this, so you're certain not the only one.
Ah... So it is basically a non-functional mechanic at the moment? That is what I was wondering. Do you know if it has been brought to the Dev's attention yet?
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# 4
05-06-2012, 09:54 PM
Yeah, I expect they'll be Cryptic-fixed soon (the stealing part will be removed from their description).

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# 5
05-06-2012, 10:07 PM
It's confirmed that you can't steal stuff in PvP.

Actually I was hoping PvP theft would be enabled.

As for True Way and Borg.

The former, erm, maybe too much Cardassian resolve to bother. The latter, there's nothing to steal, the slaver crew gets assimilated instead
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# 6
05-07-2012, 12:38 AM
Borg are already slaves (and who would pay good money for them???)

Also cardassians are UGLY at a 13 on a scale of 1-10 they would never sell either
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# 7
05-09-2012, 08:38 PM
Near as I can tell they do steal stuff, but they do it so infrequently that they aren't worth much. And they don't do anywhere near the dps of standard fighter pets, so there isn't any use for them.

I haven't been able to see if the crew stealing mechanic does anything either. It never seems to do anything, but I see the power being used. Honestly, I'm not sure what it's supposed to do in the first place.

If it replaces dead crew that's fine, but my crew is never dead...they just from alive to injured and almost never actually die off, so it doesn't mean anything. *shrug*
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# 8
05-09-2012, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mellestad View Post
Near as I can tell they do steal stuff, but they do it so infrequently that they aren't worth much. And they don't do anywhere near the dps of standard fighter pets, so there isn't any use for them.

I haven't been able to see if the crew stealing mechanic does anything either. It never seems to do anything, but I see the power being used. Honestly, I'm not sure what it's supposed to do in the first place.

If it replaces dead crew that's fine, but my crew is never dead...they just from alive to injured and almost never actually die off, so it doesn't mean anything. *shrug*

The Crew Stealing may be designed to make your opponent lose crew and replenish your injured list... However, I have tested this and it barely effects enemy crew numbers at all.

I have never noticed the swarm of them stealing anything myself which is hard to believe. What did they steal for you and under what circumstances?

I have noted that their Beam Arrays strip shields at a surprising rate.
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# 9
05-10-2012, 12:16 PM
I ran a player created mission that was just ship combat, and I spent quite a bit of time just letting my slavers peck away at enemy ships.

For 60 minutes I think I got 4 distinct drops.

1st drop: x3 medical supplies
2nd drop: x1 critical repair module
3rd drop: x6 contraband
4th drop: 300ec


This was with one hanger of advanced slavers on standard difficulty.

They were quite a bit less damaging than the standard fighter pets, but they weren't horrible. Not sure what two hangers worth would be like.
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# 10
05-10-2012, 03:55 PM
I find it hit and miss. Today, I've done the Romulan and Cardassian daily mission (the one where you fly into an anomoly type thing 3 times, each time killing 6 groups of enemies) in my carrier.

The Romulan one netted me 900 EC, 1 medical supplies, 1 self sealing stem bolts, and 3 industrial energy cells.

The Cardassian one gave me 300 EC and nothing else.

That was with one slaver hangar (green quality) and one BoP hangar (also green).
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