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# 1 Summer Blockbusters
05-08-2012, 05:26 AM
Hey guys this is my first thread so give me a little slack. Okay, we all know there's a new ST movie slated to come out in the next year or maybe this year but not in the Summer, and the rumored new series in TV is a long way off so in the mean time we have some really cool super hero movies. One just started playing, The Avengers which almost broke the box office in the first showing since it was the biggest showing of all time according to the media. 200 million in my home country of America and 641 million worldwide!

Since Tony had his day back in his suit of Armor its time for the other two to bask in the lime light, everyone loved the Avengers even if were a DC fan but, however the war of the comic book camps will ignite again since two of pop cultures most celebrated comics are coming out in June and July. One gets a much needed face lift the other gets even darker in tone if that's even possible, i will lay the ground work and then post the best trailers so you guys can see for yourself, these two movies are:

The Dark Knight Rises http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8evyE9TuYk

The Amazing Spider-man (not to be confused with the first Trilogy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpKPiHYJc54&ob=av3e
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Ill start off with the Dark Knight Rises, to me this movie just by looking at the trailer is really really dark, and almost apocalyptic, since the actor who played the Joker past away as we all know, since the Joker is well a little off, they needed someone equally screwed in the head so they chose Bane as the main baddy which when you first hear that your thinking about the lame Batman and Robin flick with that Bane, the dumb basically muscle head with that unsightly venom tubes. This Bane is the direct opposite, hes really smart, cunning and is as deadly as the plague, basically Batman in his rawest form without morals. Also they introduce Anne Hathaway as Catwomen, so that may or may not work out, time will tell. So get your Batarangs out you DC heads this gonna be one wild ride.

In the other camp however, Marvel will do a revamp of Spider-man again, which was much needed, and is a major improvement at first glance. They replaced the whiny Parker played by Toby Maguire, and bear in mind folks, the writers screwed the character up for the first trilogy not the actor. We can relate since we all hate Wesley in TNG lol or at least most of us do. They put in a smart headstrong Parker, that not only can kick serious tail but cracks jokes while doing it just like we all remember This is based more on the actual comic instead of the mix and mash movie Sam Rami's was. This Spidey shoots webs from web shooters just like what he was intended to do in the comics and TV shows. The suit itself is slightly different in design and harkens back to the Ultimate Spiderman version. The girl in this or Pete's girlfriend is Gwen Stacy, not MJ which makes more sense, because MJ came after she did in the comics, and they casted someone decent to play it, unlike the last Spidey gal. The bad guy in this is Doc Connors or as like to call Lizard head, no Gobby which again is more accurate in lore than the first one. So grab your gal, get the Spidey T on and get ready to take a trip down memory lane. And see Spidey the right way!

So what camp do you guys belong in, please post your opinion about both movies, and that includes the Devs out there too.
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# 2
05-08-2012, 06:14 AM
I'm pretty skeptical on both of these movies. Moreso on Spider-man, though. I understand the need to reboot with the studio change and everything, but they could have done what they did with other characters and just quietly ignore the fact. I also always preferred the movie Spider-man's organic webs to the artificial ones from the comics, simply because they don't need an explanation that eats up screen time and hurts the flow of the movie. Heck, even in the comics, the Spider-man knockoffs all provided their own webs. I guess this movie dwells on Robert Parker a lot, and he made the things, so maybe it won't be as bad as I fear, but it's still a power that works better without elaborate explanation.

Dark Knight Rises, I'm just uneasy if they can make lightning strike a third time. They're also bringing in Bane, and Bane's history outside of comics isn't great. Even a lot of the comic writers don't seem to get him. You can say the same for Joker, though, but it takes a special kind of writer or actor to really pull off crazy and not just PMS, and Dark Knight did that character better justice than the majority of his comic appearances.

Also, I'd like to say that the Hulk stole the show in Avengers. I still get giggle fits when I think of the scene near the end between him and Loki. My cat's name is Loki, and some days I really want to do that to him.
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# 3
05-08-2012, 06:50 PM
I can't believe they are ending it with Catwoman and Bane. They need Penguin, Ivy, Mr. Freeze and Robin to come in.
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# 4
05-08-2012, 07:40 PM
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IDark Knight Rises, I'm just uneasy if they can make lightning strike a third time. They're also bringing in Bane, and Bane's history outside of comics isn't great. Even a lot of the comic writers don't seem to get him. You can say the same for Joker, though, but it takes a special kind of writer or actor to really pull off crazy and not just PMS, and Dark Knight did that character better justice than the majority of his comic appearances.
This is Chris Nolan we're talking about. Honestly? I have only one word: "Knightfall."

If that comes in to it at all, then the movie should be worth a look!
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# 5
05-09-2012, 10:09 AM
I've never understood the love of the Batman films, Dark Knight is the one of the most overrated films in my opinion and the Joker was wooden and boring. But then when people die they suddenly become more popular, I know that's a little insensitive but it's true.
I would like to know what people see in them though, out of curiosity, short of randomly spouting "OMG ITS SO KEWL!!1"
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# 6
05-09-2012, 10:23 AM
Dark Knight was good, even though they overplayed Havey Dent (his transformation to two face should just have been a spolier for a subsequent movie).

I do like what I hear about how they are handling the bane plot though, so I am optimistic.

As for Spidey, a reboot so soon bothers me. If they have to change actors, why sweat it? Not like bond hasn't been a different actor every couple movies and it has worked just fine for that franchise.
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# 7
05-09-2012, 02:15 PM
Your missing Prometheus and Total Recall from the Blockbuster list.
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# 8
06-12-2012, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by nrobbiec
I've never understood the love of the Batman films, Dark Knight is the one of the most overrated films in my opinion and the Joker was wooden and boring. But then when people die they suddenly become more popular, I know that's a little insensitive but it's true.
I would like to know what people see in them though, out of curiosity, short of randomly spouting "OMG ITS SO KEWL!!1"
Honestly, I really see where you're coming from - I always thought Nirvana was a very over rated band and given too much credit for the grunge movement when you had bands like Alice in Chains and Soundgarden who were much more talented at their instruments. However, I feel different about the Dark Knight, in fact, I think Batman Begins is one of the most under rated films ever.

The Dark Knight isn't cool just because "holy crap, batman in tank batmobile!" it's cool, to me, because it really delves into the characters psychie like no other superhero film has done before. The new saga I actually care about Bruce Wayne's tragedy, because that's what it is and that's the message Nolan is trying to get across.

Ledger was a completely different guy in that film, it wasn't just Jack Nicholson being crazy Jack in clown makeup - Whether you like Ledger's Joker or not you can't deny that he completely transformed and was almost unrecognizeable in that film.

However, it does makes me cringe when you mention the movie to other fans and all they talk about is heath, heath was good but there was so much other things going on in that movie. Bruce Wayne starts seeing that becoming Batman probably wasn't the right thing to do, all he's done was raise the stakes. That's also why Harvey Dent played a key role, that's why his death and reputation was so important - Because he represented something Batman couldn't.

Batman makes more sense in Nolan's movies than probably any other Batman type of media has portrayed. It's the only Batman franchise where it made you even feel for the small characters like Alfred and even Bruce's parents. Thomas Wayne was portrayed as a great man in Begins, almost a martyr - He was the only one with the power and ability to help with Gotham's problems. Bruce becoming Batman isn't just mere vengeance in these films - He feels guilty for his parents death as well. It was his fear of bats that got his parents to leave the theatre and be shot.

Simply put, I love the Batman movies because they're almost more of a crime drama along the lines of movies like heat and the departed - It's telling a story, not just of Bruce, but of a city and its inhabitants. Sociology is one of my greatest interests and To me, there's a lot of commentary on inner city crime, ghettos, etc. in the new Batman franchise.

To me that's what Batman is all about too, the believability of the character. I don't like him for the same reasons why I like other superheros like the x-men and spider-man - I like him because he lives in a very believable world as someone who isn't as much as a superhero as they are of being a borderline psychotic vigilante.
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# 9
06-12-2012, 12:54 AM
I like where the Batman movies have been going because they have stayed truer to the source material than any of the prior incarnations, other than possibly the 60's Batman movie (which was very true to the TV series).

I like the trailers I have seen for the third movie, and am pretty sure they are going to tie the knightfall story in with a continuation of Ras' story, bringing Batman full circle to Begins.

I am a bit trepidatious how they will handle Catwoman though... and I do agree Two Face was underused, unless he survives and has some minor role or mention in part 3 (perhaps being taken down at the start or something?

Spidy I am nowhere near as sure of. He is one of my favorite Marvel heroes, and I liked how the last trilogy started, but felt the second and third movies suffered by too much involvement from the marketing department.

This imcarnation it sounds like they have seriously messed with his origin, turning it into some sort of conspiracy. Also the angst ridden spiderman of the prior trilogy was very true to the original material. That is what set marvel apart... their heroes actually felt. Yes it seems overboard now but that is partly because we have seen so much of it from later works that viewers are a lot more numb to it and thus less tolerant of it.

I do like the return of the web shooters though....

I do remain at least somewhat hopeful for the movie in that the Avengers was surprisingly good and Marvel does seem to be on a roll.
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# 10
05-10-2012, 10:13 AM
Here's a little something to add to your list, it's not a blockbuster, but it still looks good.

Gangster Squad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc3Ab52uqM8
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